Monday, May 31, 2021

Starting Values

 Here's a piece from the NYTimes on GOAT gymnast Simone Biles and the starting scoring value of her new Yurchenko Double Pike vault. The bolded paragraph is obviously relevant: 

By Juliet Macur 

Published May 24, 2021

Updated May 26, 2021, 8:08 a.m. 

ET INDIANAPOLIS — Simone Biles, the most decorated gymnast in history, is renowned for performing moves so difficult, and so distinctive, that several have been named after her. On Saturday, she executed a new one considered so dangerous that no other women even attempt it. Her latest signature skill is called a Yurchenko double pike. Biles attempted it in competition for the first time on Saturday night at the U.S. Classic, her first competition in 18 months. Biles had unveiled the vault, a stunning feat of power, physics and fearlessness traditionally only attempted by men, a day earlier, in a video from a practice that quickly went viral. 

 The Yurchenko double pike is considered so perilous and challenging that no other woman has attempted it in competition, and it is unlikely that any woman in the world is even training to give it a try. To execute it, a gymnast first must launch herself into a roundoff back handspring onto the vaulting table, and then propel herself high enough to give herself time to flip twice in a pike position (body folded, legs straight) before landing on her feet. It’s the kind of maneuver done much more easily by a platform diver who has the help of gravity and the safety of a soft landing. Biles, though, executes it by producing enough speed and strength to power herself high in the air and then flip so quickly on the way down that gravity seems to have been taken by surprise. Others were too. So was Biles. Not even the vault’s namesake, the former Russian gymnast Natalia Yurchenko, tried it in competition. (The double pike carries Yurchenko’s name because she pioneered the roundoff-back-handspring approach to the vault, not what Biles now can do after pressing off it.) Biles performed the vault so well on Saturday that her one flaw, somehow, was over-rotating it. That meant she needed to take a few steps back on her landing to stop her momentum. 

 Still, when Biles landed, it sent the small crowd at the Indiana Convention Center into a frenzy. The judges scoring her, however, were not so impressed. Despite the move’s difficulty, they gave it a provisional scoring value of 6.6, close to what Biles’s other vaults have received. That limited the points available for performing it successfully, a point that a frustrated Biles suggested was unfair to her. “I feel like now we just have to get what we get because there’s no point in putting up a fight because they’re not going to reward it,” she said of judges and, ultimately, the International Gymnastics Federation, which has the final word on starting values for new vaults done in competition. “So we just have to take it and be quiet.” 

Biles said Saturday that the gymnastics federation had similarly given her double-twisting, double-back beam dismount a start value that was too low, and that she expects it to undervalue her Yurchenko double pike when it is reviewed. 

 United States women’s national team coordinator Tom Forster agreed with Biles that a 6.6 was not high enough given the vault’s difficulty. “It doesn’t seem to be consistent with what they’ve done with other vault values,” he said, “and I don’t know why they do that.”

Part of the reason for that might be a concern for the safety of gymnasts not nearly as skilled as Biles — by assigning a dangerous move a low start value, the federation quietly discourages others from risking it. But there also may be a fear that Biles is so good that she might run away with any competition she enters simply by doing a handful of moves that her rivals cannot, or dare not, attempt. “They’re both too low and they even know it,” Biles said of the rewards for her beam dismount and the double-pike vault. “But they don’t want the field to be too far apart. And that’s just something that’s on them. That’s not on me. “They had an open-ended code of points and now they’re mad that people are too far ahead and excelling.” 

Despite not being properly rewarded, Biles, the defending Olympic champion in the all-around, said she would continue doing them. When asked why, she quickly answered, “Because I can.”

Setting aside Macar's sketchy take on technique, this is simultaneously depressing and comforting.  

Comforting: the b.s. is everywhere. 

Depressing: Biles is able to speak up while Virtue and Moir had to play ball. I think this may be because even casual fans can recognize the difficulty in Biles' vault while in figure skating the majority of those who write about it know nothing and look at the protocols to confirm the protocols, rather than at the skating itself to see if the protocols are honest. The supposed experts recruited to comment hide behind undefined "performance" (as in theatrical) values rather than in performance (as in skating technique and level of execution and how these are assessed) values.



16 comments:

  1. Why you not talk about the pregnancy of Jackie Mascarin ? Scott will be a dad soon like Chiddy

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    1. Someone spreading rumors doesn't make it true.

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    2. It's not a rumor it's a fact and many people was aware of this news even before TSL talk about it

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    3. So? People been speculating her being pregnant since last year. Who are these many people you talk about? Do they exist outside of your imagination? I have no horse on this race and stopped giving a fuck about ts after they finally proved to be trash but you people need to stop spreading shit. Tessa stans and moir lovers are equally delusional since last year. Thank goodness I have endless supply of popcorn to enjoy them attacking each other.

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    4. addition to my comment: Oh just because I don't care about them anymore, it doesn't mean I don't enjoy their trash lives. They been such a great entertainment for a long time. It's like a trainwreck, I can't stop watching and making fun of them. That sport is a trash making machine and ts are just another trash. Talented but still garbage nonetheless

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    5. Even if Jackie is pregnant I don't believe they'd make a public announcement

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    6. Alma Moir posted a photo with a newborn last week on facebook.
      https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10158612868162886&set=a.422253352885

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    7. Alma posted a picture so it must definitely be a scott/jackie baby? Of course it could not be an old picture of one of her many grandchildren or some other baby since fans have settled on the facts without any facts at all.

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    8. Mazel baby girl Moir! We've all been wondering why Scott said they would get married in 2022, when restrictions are being lifted as we get into summer. Now she'll have time to get into that dress she already bought, and she'll be able to pump and dump so she can drink from her own wedding day bottle.

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    9. Dave Lease is almost never wrong. I don't this picture is a coincidence. I didn't really believe in Scott and Jackie but Scott will probably announce it himself soon. I'm happy that Tessa and Scott will probably work together in the future, though because he promised and he always fulfils his promises.

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    10. Some so called fans should leave Jackie and Scott in peace if they wanted to announce this birth of their baby they would have done it already.

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  2. I can find zero about her online.

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    1. TSL said in their video Scott is gonna be dad

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  3. Also… did you hear that Kaitlin Weaver came out as gay?

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    1. No, she came out as queer. They are two different labels.

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  4. Values, a thing that VM should learn... It would make so many lives easier... But let they keep up with their lies and the circus.

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