Empowered to own her power - not just the girl in the red dress
So she's never going to pull her head out from up her hind end? At least not in public. This is the persona. Trust Tessa Virtue to carry on about her internal conflicts over winning her second Olympic gold medal. Very 2014 of her but Virtue Moir are not big on new material off the ice.
I was hunting for but cannot find another article I read from a year ago portraying Tessa as stressed (tension lines around her eyes!) from the (oxymoron alert) Canadian superstardom she has not pursued - it just keeps coming at her against her will. But never fear, she's polite and professional no matter how much she wishes it would all go away.
I'm not calling her out on the privilege of being a massively talented, classically beautiful three time Olympic medalist/two time gold medalist in ice dance (really three times gold if we counted the actual skating), accomplishments achieved with her husband and the father of her kids (well, in 2010 just her husband, in 2014 and 2018 the father of her kids) who bores everybody rigid naval gazing in public about her faux ambivalence afterwards.
I'm calling her out on her negging her own choices for the sake of some vacuous branding. This woman who constantly promotes herself a la every basic influencer and minor celebrity (though they pretend she's major) on the planet, dedicated herself heart and soul to something she passionately wanted (the 2018 Olympic gold). Once achieved, here comes the whining. She did the same with the "Is all I am a skater - I want a balanced life as a socialite!" shtick in the W Network's 2014's demented fan fiction "Tessa and Scott" and now she's doing "Is all I am the girl in the red dress." Her conflicts are so esoteric I have no idea what they accomplish for her in terms of business. People just end up sighing, "She's so beautiful."
What is the problem here? What else will people remember you for? Your scintillating interviews? Your neverending "Will we or won't we" with your own husband and baby daddy?
I compare Katia Gordeeva and Tessa Virtue because I believe they are similarly talented and obviously share other commonalities. Katia Gordeeva won two Olympic golds by the time she was 22, but she has been an accomplished businesswoman in the decades since, earning a more than comfortable living and retaining a sufficiently high public profile. Do we ever hear Gordeeva bitching that she's mostly remembered for her matchless partnership with her husband, Sergei Grinkov, who has been deceased since 1995? No. Do you ever hear Katia Gordeeva complaining that she's mostly seen as a skater? No. She adores being a skater, as much as Tessa adores being a skater, it's in her blood as much as it is in Tessa's blood, and somehow she doesn't feel the need to make up shit about how that's a problem because there's other things she likes. Go ahead and do those things! You ARE doing those things. You get to do those things because you were the girl in the red dress and before that the pink dress and before that the white dress, and those moments in your career are responsible for your opportunities today. Come up with better problems other than this solipsistic garbage. Besides, that is rude to your fans. Maybe that's a value add to her. They really love to gaslight fans with the push/pull.
For the fans who love and rewatch that performance as all great performances are loved and rewatched, who were, as fans, ecstatic for themselves and for Virtue and Moir, it's a sour note. Oh, the skater herself is over it and doesn't even relate anymore.
No, she doesn't have to be Katia but as they share many of the same factors vis a vis the public, their resumes, their beauty, the preoccupation of much of the public with their respective love stories, and their skating, the difference between how one handled it - like an adult - and the other handled it - like a control freak only also like a cossetted, insulated, blinkered and sheltered dimwit - are instructive. IMO.
This Hamlet routine is stupid. She's making bank off her looks and fame by collaborating with beauty and fashion brands who, from time to time, partner with some socially conscious initiative and that's the whole nut. It's not that serious. If she were going to be fulfilled by doing something other than being"The Girl in the Red Dress" she'd do it. Instead it's an MBA in business she's going after so she can make even more bank off her looks and fame by collaborating with more beauty and fashion brands who ambulance chase the latest cause and recruit their influencers and brand faces to buzzword the hell out of it. That is all the thought and investment that goes into it.
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I don't know how transactional Tessa Virtue's friendship with Jessica Mulroney has been but it's something I've always side eyed, mostly because of the terror that Tessa would incrementally transform her beautiful self into an injected, be-fillered, fake-tanned, inflated frozen mess, destroying her looks before age 35. I was dreading inchworm Joker lips stretched ear to ear, as even some of her current images evoke that aesthetic. Perfectionists have been known to be dysmorphic, and there's a little bit of a disconnect between Tessa's social media messaging of "you are enough" "Blah blah makes you unique" "empower" "feminist" - and her super filtered images. Even her "Look ma, no make-up! posts (in her case it's no eyebrows and pale lashes and freckles and some super self-consciously adorkable attire) are filtered into glowed up holograms. When a woman as beautiful as she is constantly puts out images of herself that look the way Tina Fey described the aesthetic - "a blank white paper plate with eyes and lips painted on", the empowerment rap rings hollow.
Anyway, Jessica Mulroney has been cancelled. Her bride show is over, her collaboration with Smash & Tess is over
There's pictures on social media of Mulroney behind the scenes at an arena and Tessa interacting with her young daughter, and images of Mulroney, Tessa and others in a grouping with Mulroney looping her arm through Tessa's leg.
Jessica Mulroney was known to be a piece of work so I did at times wonder about Tessa's public affiliation with her. Did she not pay attention to how Jessica Mulroney handled other people? Did it only matter how she kissed Tessa's behind? Remember when Jian Ghomeshi, another Canadian public personality with a problematic reputation behind the scenes long before he was publicly outed? And his flirtatious drive-by in the W Networks's "Tessa and Scott"? Why "empower" these people?
Here's what Mulroney did. Behind the scenes, she threatened an influencer, Sarah Exeter, less well known than she, a social media "friend", a black woman, from discussing Black Lives Matter. Exeter had made the most generic imaginable post of of BLM support. Mulroney DM'd her to quit it or she'd speak to Exeter's brand partners and end her career. After making one of those "I'm backing off from social media to reflect" moves, she went to Exeter's DMs and threatened her with a "liable" suit, which is just embarrassing. Come on lady. Even with a few glasses of wine in you, it's not a difficult word to spell. If you know the word to begin with.
I don't know Tessa, maybe it's time to have more than a "difficult conversation" (seriously?) about the "idea" (the IDEA???) of privilege, but what I really think is you are superficially well-intentioned but not well-informed, not even in your semantics.
Part of Mulroney's apology:
More Exeter:
At some point having it both ways - existing inside a protected little bubble of you, your husband, your kids and whatever else resides inside there is irresponsible when you insist on living a public life and profiting from a public life and engaging in public life by lining yourself up with a progressive profile, promoting (buzzword alert) authenticity, AND feeding a completely phony narrative about yourself.
Tessa and Scott's kids will never go hungry, will have their education paid for, and will live comfortably, materially, all of their lives, and none of that is due to Scott and Tessa's lies. So, in a way, they're hiding behind their own family to camouflage their immaturity, snobbery, cowardice and exploitation.
There are no excuses. IMO she should withdraw from her little messaging sideline of empowerment and just do her sponsorship and branding tie ins, and own that neither she nor Scott are interested in becoming adults, and prefer the business model they've had all their lives - other people map it out for them, do the screening and vetting for them, and they have input on areas of concern but don't own their shit.
Very much looking forward to Scott's "wedding" this summer, as Tessa will bring her "Bfriend". I envision a classic facebook skater wedding throwback - a local hall/cafeteria, familiar Moirs, potluck, solo cups, nobody from their competitive career. All of it photographed at some convenient point this past February.
I don't think even Max Trankov could stone his way up to attend this one.
P.S. I used to think this could go on as long as Virtue and Moir wanted it to, which at this time, more than ten years on, appears indefinitely. But I think tides and times are against them, and there's going to be a breakout at some point against all social media garbage. And it won't come from the media, but through their own bad judgment.
So she's never going to pull her head out from up her hind end? At least not in public. This is the persona. Trust Tessa Virtue to carry on about her internal conflicts over winning her second Olympic gold medal. Very 2014 of her but Virtue Moir are not big on new material off the ice.
I was hunting for but cannot find another article I read from a year ago portraying Tessa as stressed (tension lines around her eyes!) from the (oxymoron alert) Canadian superstardom she has not pursued - it just keeps coming at her against her will. But never fear, she's polite and professional no matter how much she wishes it would all go away.
I'm not calling her out on the privilege of being a massively talented, classically beautiful three time Olympic medalist/two time gold medalist in ice dance (really three times gold if we counted the actual skating), accomplishments achieved with her husband and the father of her kids (well, in 2010 just her husband, in 2014 and 2018 the father of her kids) who bores everybody rigid naval gazing in public about her faux ambivalence afterwards.
I'm calling her out on her negging her own choices for the sake of some vacuous branding. This woman who constantly promotes herself a la every basic influencer and minor celebrity (though they pretend she's major) on the planet, dedicated herself heart and soul to something she passionately wanted (the 2018 Olympic gold). Once achieved, here comes the whining. She did the same with the "Is all I am a skater - I want a balanced life as a socialite!" shtick in the W Network's 2014's demented fan fiction "Tessa and Scott" and now she's doing "Is all I am the girl in the red dress." Her conflicts are so esoteric I have no idea what they accomplish for her in terms of business. People just end up sighing, "She's so beautiful."
What is the problem here? What else will people remember you for? Your scintillating interviews? Your neverending "Will we or won't we" with your own husband and baby daddy?
I compare Katia Gordeeva and Tessa Virtue because I believe they are similarly talented and obviously share other commonalities. Katia Gordeeva won two Olympic golds by the time she was 22, but she has been an accomplished businesswoman in the decades since, earning a more than comfortable living and retaining a sufficiently high public profile. Do we ever hear Gordeeva bitching that she's mostly remembered for her matchless partnership with her husband, Sergei Grinkov, who has been deceased since 1995? No. Do you ever hear Katia Gordeeva complaining that she's mostly seen as a skater? No. She adores being a skater, as much as Tessa adores being a skater, it's in her blood as much as it is in Tessa's blood, and somehow she doesn't feel the need to make up shit about how that's a problem because there's other things she likes. Go ahead and do those things! You ARE doing those things. You get to do those things because you were the girl in the red dress and before that the pink dress and before that the white dress, and those moments in your career are responsible for your opportunities today. Come up with better problems other than this solipsistic garbage. Besides, that is rude to your fans. Maybe that's a value add to her. They really love to gaslight fans with the push/pull.
For the fans who love and rewatch that performance as all great performances are loved and rewatched, who were, as fans, ecstatic for themselves and for Virtue and Moir, it's a sour note. Oh, the skater herself is over it and doesn't even relate anymore.
No, she doesn't have to be Katia but as they share many of the same factors vis a vis the public, their resumes, their beauty, the preoccupation of much of the public with their respective love stories, and their skating, the difference between how one handled it - like an adult - and the other handled it - like a control freak only also like a cossetted, insulated, blinkered and sheltered dimwit - are instructive. IMO.
This Hamlet routine is stupid. She's making bank off her looks and fame by collaborating with beauty and fashion brands who, from time to time, partner with some socially conscious initiative and that's the whole nut. It's not that serious. If she were going to be fulfilled by doing something other than being"The Girl in the Red Dress" she'd do it. Instead it's an MBA in business she's going after so she can make even more bank off her looks and fame by collaborating with more beauty and fashion brands who ambulance chase the latest cause and recruit their influencers and brand faces to buzzword the hell out of it. That is all the thought and investment that goes into it.
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I don't know how transactional Tessa Virtue's friendship with Jessica Mulroney has been but it's something I've always side eyed, mostly because of the terror that Tessa would incrementally transform her beautiful self into an injected, be-fillered, fake-tanned, inflated frozen mess, destroying her looks before age 35. I was dreading inchworm Joker lips stretched ear to ear, as even some of her current images evoke that aesthetic. Perfectionists have been known to be dysmorphic, and there's a little bit of a disconnect between Tessa's social media messaging of "you are enough" "Blah blah makes you unique" "empower" "feminist" - and her super filtered images. Even her "Look ma, no make-up! posts (in her case it's no eyebrows and pale lashes and freckles and some super self-consciously adorkable attire) are filtered into glowed up holograms. When a woman as beautiful as she is constantly puts out images of herself that look the way Tina Fey described the aesthetic - "a blank white paper plate with eyes and lips painted on", the empowerment rap rings hollow.
Anyway, Jessica Mulroney has been cancelled. Her bride show is over, her collaboration with Smash & Tess is over
Mulroney and Tessa for Smash & Tess |
Jessica Mulroney was known to be a piece of work so I did at times wonder about Tessa's public affiliation with her. Did she not pay attention to how Jessica Mulroney handled other people? Did it only matter how she kissed Tessa's behind? Remember when Jian Ghomeshi, another Canadian public personality with a problematic reputation behind the scenes long before he was publicly outed? And his flirtatious drive-by in the W Networks's "Tessa and Scott"? Why "empower" these people?
Here's what Mulroney did. Behind the scenes, she threatened an influencer, Sarah Exeter, less well known than she, a social media "friend", a black woman, from discussing Black Lives Matter. Exeter had made the most generic imaginable post of of BLM support. Mulroney DM'd her to quit it or she'd speak to Exeter's brand partners and end her career. After making one of those "I'm backing off from social media to reflect" moves, she went to Exeter's DMs and threatened her with a "liable" suit, which is just embarrassing. Come on lady. Even with a few glasses of wine in you, it's not a difficult word to spell. If you know the word to begin with.
I don't know Tessa, maybe it's time to have more than a "difficult conversation" (seriously?) about the "idea" (the IDEA???) of privilege, but what I really think is you are superficially well-intentioned but not well-informed, not even in your semantics.
Part of Mulroney's apology:
"You are right when you say 'this s— needs to stop,' " Mulroney said. "As leaders, we need to join hands and call out wrongs. I know we have different experiences. And that is something that, even in the course of a heated argument, I need to acknowledge and understand. I am unequivocally sorry for not doing that with you, and for any hurt I caused."Yeah. What the hell is Mulroney a leader of?
More Exeter:
"Listen, I'm by no means calling Jess a racist, but what I will say is this: she is very well aware of her wealth, her perceived power and privilege because of the color of her skin," Exeter continued, adding that these aforementioned traits gave Mulroney the "confidence to come for my livelihood in writing."How do you hang with someone who weaponizes privilege as Mulroney does but you remain oblivious? Someone who, when she issues a threat, undermines the whole thing because she can't spell? She's not benign, she's terrible. Even the bits that can be seen of her instagram, she's TERRIBLE.
At some point having it both ways - existing inside a protected little bubble of you, your husband, your kids and whatever else resides inside there is irresponsible when you insist on living a public life and profiting from a public life and engaging in public life by lining yourself up with a progressive profile, promoting (buzzword alert) authenticity, AND feeding a completely phony narrative about yourself.
Tessa and Scott's kids will never go hungry, will have their education paid for, and will live comfortably, materially, all of their lives, and none of that is due to Scott and Tessa's lies. So, in a way, they're hiding behind their own family to camouflage their immaturity, snobbery, cowardice and exploitation.
There are no excuses. IMO she should withdraw from her little messaging sideline of empowerment and just do her sponsorship and branding tie ins, and own that neither she nor Scott are interested in becoming adults, and prefer the business model they've had all their lives - other people map it out for them, do the screening and vetting for them, and they have input on areas of concern but don't own their shit.
Very much looking forward to Scott's "wedding" this summer, as Tessa will bring her "Bfriend". I envision a classic facebook skater wedding throwback - a local hall/cafeteria, familiar Moirs, potluck, solo cups, nobody from their competitive career. All of it photographed at some convenient point this past February.
I don't think even Max Trankov could stone his way up to attend this one.
P.S. I used to think this could go on as long as Virtue and Moir wanted it to, which at this time, more than ten years on, appears indefinitely. But I think tides and times are against them, and there's going to be a breakout at some point against all social media garbage. And it won't come from the media, but through their own bad judgment.
Last paragraph, you mean they are being forced to have fake relationships?
ReplyDeleteNo. The original rationale was pretty much the same that covers all burgeoning figure skating teams - to protect their privacy and keep the focus on the skating and take the pressure off both the relationship. I also think it's just in the culture of figure skating, which is pretty conformist.
DeleteIt's clearly gone way past that a long time ago. They spent most of their career milking the public's near mastubatory interest in the status of the relationship, trolling, setting stuff up. Now they're in new territory.
I don't think there's any complexity in why they keep it up. I would have speculated it's because they are still nurturing a public profile but I think the obvious reason is when you've been lying for ten years (longer since they've been together much longer than they've been married) it's easier to keep lying than to come clean. They have the upper hand on fans who get themselves into a tizzy, and they'd be the ones in a defensive position. It doesn't matter that the narrative would claim they were stalked and harrassed by fans and needed to protect themselves and their family. I think fans would point out you don't do a reality show prior to an Olympic competition if you find the interest in your supposed "will they or won't they" status a challenge. They have cultivated it.
The business model in entertainment media, and all of Scott and Tessa's media is entertainment media, period (including sports) is that the media is a PR arm of the subjects they cover, not in the news transmission of fact finding business.
I wrote this post because I haven't seen a shift in that business model in years and anticipated it could continue indefinitely. I think, though, the culture might be shifting and we might see rebellion against maintaining b.s. narratives like theirs.
I do sometimes wonder if Scott & Tessa & Co. thought past what must have seen like an irresistable trolling opportunity in linking him up with his former partner.
If they don’t speak It means, for me,that they are happy with these relationships ( fake or not) . So we will see a wag Tessa and A ( “ I don’t know why I stay with a maga “ ) married Scott
ReplyDeleteA question: are Scott and Tessa still married, or have they split and dating other people?
ReplyDeleteIf they are still married, Scott ‘s wedding will be illegal ...the documents of TS wedding are registered in an office in London or Ilderton I think
ReplyDeleteThey didn't get married in London or Ilderton. They got married in Monaco. I am guessing you have to then register in your home but from what I understand it is easy to keep them private. This doesn't meant they're not there (which I defer to you) but not accessible on the web.
DeleteOfficially, a Monaco marriage from foreign residents requires a continuous one month (30 day residency). But Monaco is Monaco. If one has connections - as Tessa definitely does and as the Moirs somewhat implausibly (in my biased mind) definitely do in the person of an employee of Prince Albert's/the palace - requirements can be finessed. That's what they did. Then you take care of the paperwork/registration in your home country. In Canada, this can be private.
DeleteThere is some sort of misconception out there that all marriage/birth/death records are available to just anyone who wants them. That is not the case. In any jurisdiction I'm aware of, those records are only available to people/parties directly involved. It's private for everyone, not just for those who request it be kept private.
DeleteWhen you start researching this the info that comes up sort of leads you on to think they are publicly available, but they are really publicly available to "eligible" persons, which does not include randoms in the general public. Furthermore, most of the stuff I've read assumes the marriage was performed in Canada. They got married in Monaco.
DeleteI don't think they were ever married or have kids. Why would they go through all this trouble of having fake relationships over and over again so that no one would find out about their marriage? Pretending to move to other places and set up a fake wedding to be with their fake significant others? Risk legal troubles just for show? It does not make any sense. I'd rather go with the most parcimonious explanation: They were never married nor had any children. And the owner of this blog just took the conspiracy too far by believing it. This narrative is not being pushed by Tessa and Scott, The only one trying to shove this down everyoe's throat is this blog's owner.
ReplyDeleteI agree, but that doesn't mean they were never a couple. And Tessa and Scott like these rumours because it made them more popular. But this story with the first skating partner seems fake, too many coincidences.
DeleteThey probably dated at some point when they were younger and people did not care as much as they do now. Just like many other figure skating partners. As for the rumors, it happens to every ice dance couple. Some confirm, some do not, and some, like Tessa and Scott, do neither and just let people think whatever they want, because it helps them to be more popular with the audience during season. Madison Hubbel and Zachary Donohue do the exact same thing. I don't remeber which season was, it was recently, that there were rumors about them having a torrid affair off the ice, even though they were already broken up and seeing other people at that point.
DeleteThey are married, it's not a theory. They have children - also not a theory. Still married and together - also not a theory. These are the facts. 4:50pm, I'd question the assumptions and just look into how networking and transactional relationships and PR operates. This is mostly sorted by other people. I'd question the assumption it's any trouble at all. Scott and Tessa can live their lives openly because EVERYBODY KNOWS. Unless it's "breaking news" the fans will be selectively hard of hearing. Under a caption of Ryan Semple and a pregnant Tessa at TIF in 2014, a commentator from London (Ontario) wanted to know why they were being i.d.'s as a couple when everybody knows she's married to her skating partner.
DeleteThere may be a writer or reporter new to figure skating and Virtue and Moir who do not know the status, take it on face value, and write accordingly. ANYBODY who has been around Tessa and Scott for any amount of time, or even "inside" figure skating knows they are married. They either carry on pretending they don't, or they don't deal with them.
I have a pretty good idea why the Shibutanis were AWOL from the "reality show" on the W network. There are people who are disgusted and turned off. There are fans who are over it. The media knows, everybody in skating knows. This is considered a PR situation and nobody is going to "expose" them whether people approve, don't care, or don't approve.
More on exposure: I'd ask you - if you were able to confirm for yourself that they're married - which you actually could if you set to work (not reading figure skating message boards!), what would you do? Post on a figure skating message board that you found out? Would you go do reddit, fsuniverse and goldenskate (where many fans also know and pretend that they don't) and push back? Say I KNOW? My guess is you wouldn't. You'd be happy to know, the mystery would be solved, and if you shared it it would be private.
I could believe they are married but the kids... where are? Living in a secret house with relatives or fake parents or with nanny...Tessa and Scott were around the world in the last years... not easy if they have kids
DeleteI think, Anon at 7:52, you think this is an undercover cloak and dagger thing. It is a social media thing. That's it. They travel, raise their family, have help and have family when need be and take the kids when that works. They have money. They have friends and family who are never in the media so we're not going to know who they are or their connection to VM when they're around VM.
DeleteYou are making it overcomplicated. The fake relationships exist on social media alone and podcasts and photos. How hard is a podcast? How difficult is a photo. Scott and Jessica used to stage "Xmas" way before Xmas at his parents' house (the most depressing looking undecorated xmas ever) "exchange" dubious gifts and dump the photos right at xmas time. They'd do photoshoots at different international skating competitions when Tessa was getting her PT. See how efficient? When Tessa went to France with her mother and sister to attend her "French family's" wedding (and attend to other upcoming business) Scott went to the Dominican with Jessica Dube and her siblings and did a photo shoot with Jessica. Whoever else was there did not participate in the phone senior citizen-esque activities Scott and Jessica pretended to be enjoying.
Why would they need their kids to have secret parents? Secret from whom? I don't know about you, but I know several things /situations that are different than as presented on the web besides this. I don't mean the billion fan rumors about politics, Hollywood, illuninati and all that. Just - this is the public product and this is the private reality. Do I go rushing to twitter to share what I know? Would you? I don't think you would.
People who mostly follow Scott and Tessa on the internet have to stop thinking that everybody who knows something needs to put it on the internet. It's perfectly ok to know something and only chat about it with real life people who also know something. And not everybody lives on their social media.
There is a LOT of talk about Scott and Tessa. I know stuff that I haven't put on the blog because it's not relevant (family stuff, POV stuff. things that happened). None of it is soap opera-ish, it's all just natural real life stuff but why would I dump it here.
You might want to scroll back to when Tessa walked the red carpet at TIF pregnant and all of the photos were photoshopped to hell to conceal the pregnancy. How come the photogs didn't call it out? You can look at half a black car's chrome shopped out to clear some of her midsection. This isn't a best friend that did it. It's a celebrity photographer in the celebrity photography game and his job is to take pretty pictures, photo shop them and clean them up. Not be a photojournalist.
A couple of times on an instagram, Tessa would post photos oer herself as a child. There was a poster who several times would remark, "OMG, you look so much like "X" (X being the name of Scott and Tessa's eldest, not putting it here). Did other posters jump on it and say, "Who is x"? Or "Stop trolling!" No. It was radio silence. I don't know if the poster was trying to get a rise out of Tessa (they didn't) or was some local not up to speed on Scott and Tessa's social media machination, but that IS the name of their eldest so this poster knew something. NOBODY FOLLOWED UP. People don't want to touch it. You really think somebody at this point wants to put their names to this? There has actually been discussion about it in several places and people won't touch it just the same as this. But will believe wild things or some idiotic scenario that Tessa is heartbroken but Scott jilted her for his first partner and insulted her. That's soap opera. That's not real life. This people are not actually playing out ANY of their real life in public. I will grant you that the fake life they are putting out has become more and more unpleasant. I'd check out the reality show and do a reality check about just how plausible most of Scott's remarks were if the situation were as it was promoted to us - he's dating Cassie, Tessa is a nice kid but annoying and it's clear she's pining for him on some level, and he's really alpha and has a lot to say. Tell me what man or what woman in the world if that situation was real would talk like that. I can cite chapter and verse, but would like to know if you see it. But a lot of fans liked watching this fan fiction come to life and thinking they were seeing a real situation play out. You can't fix that. I think many fans prefer the fan fiction they "analyze" to the fact that Scott and Tessa at this point are old marrieds with growing children and that's the reality. They were a married couple at every Olympics they competed and parents at the last two.
DeleteI think a baby , in 2015 they skated at CNE and in 2016 they were back on ice and skated until last November
Delete5:35pm she got pregnant immediately after the 2010 Olympics and did the 4 Seasons comp very shortly after she gave birth. That's their eldest. If you like you can go back to that period on this blog and see some pictures, although my knowing this isn't based on pics. But see if you can talk yourself out of it after looking at it.
DeleteI remember chatting with people when that was announced. WTF? Even a rock star with supernatural body awareness like Tessa would not be able to perform a long program that soon after birth. A short program, ok. Just look at the components of it, where her stretch is happening and supported, and its doable. They did it. It was when they dropped the OD and the compulsory and combined it into the short dance (I think) and VM wanted to road test it. They went to the 4 Seasons to get reactions to their short. TBC
Four Continents, not Four Seasons.
DeleteI think they won the short. On the day, they started their long program and bailed cause she "got a cramp". We all know what Scott and Tessa look like when they are about to skate their program, and I think we know they suck as actors. Look at their faces when they take the ice. Look at the lack of commitment. Then she gets a quad "cramp" I think as the first lift starts, looks apologetic, everyone at rinkside looks unsurprised (their faces are deadpan). She strokes evenly back to the boards. They officially bail on the long and return to the ice for an apologetic bow and she curtsies right on her damn cramped quad. She's watching in the stands the next day with her legs crossed. Ouch.
I am not deducing from this that she'd just had a baby. I KNOW she'd just had a baby. I had been wondering WTF - she can't do a long so why are they in this competition? Then that stunt happened. We've all seen Alex Shibutani when HE got a cramp - pale as a ghost. I've posted a pic of a DWTs guy when HE got a cramp. Tessa was like something out of a children's cartoon.
Scott and Tessa are "nice people." They are "sweet people." They have "empathy". But they are epic, epic, EPIC liars and in their heads its their lives so they are entitled. I think they think it's all victimless, but I don't agree.
So one in 2010 or early in 2011 and one in 2014 ... or there are other siblings....
DeleteI know there are two. I SUSPECT there are three. My knowledge of the first two is fact, not speculation, observation, or deduction. Of the third, it is speculation, observation and deduction (and experience). I don't chase them. This is not a gossip blog. If some act of God happened or they divorced, I'd hear of it. Otherwise, the point of this blog is not to track or monitor their lives or regularly check in on their personal life details that have no impact on their relationship to the public.
DeleteIt's to point out the gap between their actual lives and their lies, and how they treat people, and what it means about the media, our culture, about celebrity, about the gap between image and reality. I steer clear of finding out what to me are irrelevant aspects of their lives. I believe Tessa and Scott and their ever changing team (except for the stalwarts in their family) have long ago lost sight of where the lines are. I try not to.
I recently read one fan guessing that Davis White's appearance in the reality show destroyed their relationship with Virtue Moir. Christ on a Cracker. This was Virtue and Moir's contractual "reality" show. How does anyone think that Davis White moseyed into the camera range of Virtue and Moir's project without signing clearances? Clearances approved by Virtue and Moir. I think Davis and White have their own shit to finesse (and no, that does not include a relationship between them) and they went ahead and did drive bys, which they could only have done with VM's permission. The Shibs - they did not exist. I'd love to know if they were asked and declined, or if VM knew better than to ask.
DeleteApologies if this is a double post. I don't think this went through the first time.
DeleteI can't remember the exact social media platform anymore or the exact event, although I'm reasonably sure it was 2016 Worlds. A fan told of witnessing Tessa and Meryl acting like they good old friends they actually are. There was a lot of disbelief from other fans about how Tessa could still possibly be friends with Meryl.
I think a lot of fans, rightfully, have a lot of anger about the fuckery that happened with scores and placements between 2012 and 2014 (it started before that--it was that whole quad--but the worst was those last two seasons). The fans also direct a lot of personal anger towards DW, and so in their minds, they can't grasp how VM could possible still be friends with DW.
In general, I think a lot of fans decide that skaters hate/dislike each other far more than is actually common I think there is a mass failure to recognize that even though they are competitors on ice, many skaters have a shared bond with each other because of similar backgrounds and experiences. It flies in the face of the drama that certain groups like to imagine but just doesn't.
I also can vouch for there being a second child--a mention overheard in passing somewhere. I'm less convinced of there being a third child, but I also don't care deeply about what the child headcount actually is in their family.
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DeleteI will say about the trip to Four Continents in 2011, for a long time, I thought they just went to get feed back for the new short dance format. However, in the last year, there have been a couple of incidents that have come to my attention where Skate Canada has forced injured athletes to try to compete even though they should not be according to their medical care providers.
Particularly cringeworthy--and public so I can talk about it here--is SC trying to force Nik Sorensen, the ice dancer, to compete on a knee not yet fully recovered from surgery. It's ice dance, there are plenty of cautionary tales of knees permanently ruined because of a rush to return to the ice. He finally put his foot down in the end, but SC was hell bent for awhile that he and his partner would be sktating at worlds. It was insistence that they would be competing in the exact same way there was insistence that VM would be skating two new programs at 4CC in 2011. It was very deju vu.
There are some other similar incidents with top skaters that I know of as well--what happened with Sorensen is not an isolated occurrence. After learning about some of these incidents, I've actually started to wonder if SC forced VM to go when Tessa was not capable yet to make it through a free dance. It would fit right in with the other things that have pulled with some injured skaters/teams. VM get forced into going by the fed, make it through the short, but bail on the long because she's just not ready yet.
VM have certainly pulled more than enough that their actions deserve scrutiny, but Skate Canada also deserves a lot of scrutiny. Particularly in that Sochi quad, they seemed perfectly content to throw VM under a bus to get...I don't know... a men's OGM? The support for the Gadbois training center? Future support for Paul Poirier and partner? Having learned about the other incidents and how those played out, what happened with VM now makes me think SC was behind that trip and not them. Sure, it was a new format, but VM had plenty of access to judges and officials to give feedback without them having to trek off to Asia with a newborn.
I'll never defend Skate Canada but any rewatch of the Four Continents long will demonstrate that whatever Tessa's deficit (she'd just had a child) a quad cramp was not one of them. The team at Skate Canada is different now than it was when Scott and Tessa competed although Mike Slipchuk, high performance director is I think still there and has always been close to them.
DeleteWhile Skate Canada may behave as you have said (actually no "may" about it- they are awful), Tessa and Scott are ferociously driven and do not need to be pushed at anything. There was a new dance that year - the sd to replace the compulsories and that's what they wanted for feedback. The long wasn't ready. Scott and Tessa are both EXTREMELY strong willed and would never have complied without being on board, a lot of Scott's family is tied to Skate Canada. Remember, compartment syndrome almost derailed their entire career and they got past that through force of Tessa's will. They were huge SC stars and SC wasn't going to risk damage to the woman's body and VM are as everyone knows extremely, extremely strong willed and outspoken internally and wouldn't have rolled over.
I'm with you on the children. I'm not interested in the head count. Once they had ONE child what difference does it make. They had a second child and then I tuned out. I think someone on this blog said, "check it out" re her possibly being pregnant a third time and while I looked at some pics I did not follow up.
Since Skate Canada threw VM under the bus in order to advance its coaching program and finally get away from the reputation of needing to send their top skaters out of the country for training, I agree they are pretty low. But "knowing" Scott and Tessa I am convinced they wanted the SD feedback and were completely on board. Everybody had to know the long wasn't going to happen. Not only because she'd just had a baby, but because it wasn't even ready (she hadn't been able to really train the elements yet). Skate Canada isn't going to gain anything by compelling its skaters to skate an unfinished program in competition.
PS - there actually is real tension between Davis White and Virtue Moir and their friendship is not what it was in 2010. While what happened wasn't personal, as you say, there was a lot of fuckery that robbed VM and awarded gold to that insanely basic skate of Davis White's, and people are human. Years ago Tessa and Scott would have been high profile guests at Meryl and Fedor's wedding in France, particularly as VM have history with Fedor as well as DW. Maybe it was a coaching thing and how that was handled (shamefully, IMO - Marina had nothing to do with what went down in Sochi but VM were happy to promote the fan view and sell her out), maybe it was Sochi itself, maybe a combo, but they are not the good old friends they used to be. (And maybe it was also wrangling kid schedules and issues that were in the way, but I believe it was understood on both sides they would not be coming.)
DeletePPS - apologies to you - I re-read your post and you are basically saying the charade was SC's idea - the sd feedback AND the bail on the not ready for unveiling long. VM had a huge voice inside SC then, as did Patrick Chan. It's hard to compare them with any SC skater now that the Fed is bullying and pressuring. IOW, they did nothing they didn't want to do. Tessa has extraordinary body awareness, as does Scott, and it was easy to do workarounds on the short without people really clocking the muscle groups she was deploying for extension and amplitude (hips not core, chest not core).
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ReplyDeleteI don’t know if it is the photo or what but it seems she has a belly. And they were in a good shape because won the worlds a month before
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DeleteNot her and not in a month
DeleteI looked at the photo ... her belly is so suspect. also her bra and her cheeks ...if they won worlds in three they are more than GOAT and I am happy for them ...
DeleteIt seems that they are the best secret of Ilderton.. no one talk about them and almost all Ildertonians know the truth ... at his walk of fame no one were happy about the announcement and forced applauses
ReplyDeleteThey might be over it. Ilderton went in BIG on Virtue and Moir. Virtue and Moir put them on the map, even if the Moirs weren't always the most popular people in town. Ilderton was all about it. Their small town heroes who never forgot their roots.
DeleteI think ten yeasr plus on this smells different and the whole thing has gone sour. Virtue and Moir's handling of it, particularly with the righteous tinge, has to sit wrong with people who know they are being self-righteous while lying and disrespecting the people they are marketing themselves too. And I finally figured out why Tessa's instagram and twitter product doesn't sit right - too many adverbs. "Wildly thoughtful questions and enlightened wisdom?" What the fuck? Clean it up and talk straight. I swear their getting worse.
It was fun though to see Scott saying, "We're in Tampa" not "Jackie and I are in Tampa."
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DeleteOnly in the last two year we saw the real Tessa and Scott. A woman and a man with different lives, dreams and goals. Probably they were together during the comeback but at the end they realized that they could never have been a couple. Scott said he wants a family, Tessa wants her own business. Now Scott is living his, under the radar ,best life with his first skating partner , who is an old family ‘s friend ,in a countryside and Tessa has her city lights in Toronto with a young, rich and famous hockey player. For 20 years they had common goals , win, win and win. They are the greatest skater ever and probably their lovely ( are they a couple or not)partnership was created around the table. They learnt how to be cute with each other to engage to crowd. They don’t talk or keep in touch anymore but she will at the wedding as (fake) bestfriend so the fans will be happy ... after this they will say a definitive farewell. He will be back in Florida as a married man when the COVID will be over and Tessa after her MBA will be a wag with her own business . Sad end but these are the lives they want .
ReplyDeleteYou sound like one of the Scott defenders LMAO. I can even say who you are but I don't want to deal with your type of crazy. Stay in the land of delusion
DeleteNo I’m not ... I’d like to see Tessa and Scott as a married couple with mini Virtue Moir around them, Scott with the skating school of his dreams and Tessa that sometimes help him but unfortunately they decided for other things for their lives
DeleteAnd was with Scott and the doctor at the same time
DeleteI check the comments infrequently but Scott's life is husband to Tessa Virtue and raising their kids. They marked their 10th wedding anniversary fall 2019. They married directly after TEB.
DeleteThat's not the real Tessa and Scott that's the PR Tessa and Scott. I think that's the umbrella it's under now - takes it out of the ethical realm and is just a business position. The real Tessa and Scott have been married over ten years.
DeleteScott and Tessa don't switch out the significant others to cover anything up. It is not necessary. It is their choice. They don't need to cover anything up because nobody is publishing anything because of the sector they're in - entertainment. Nobody in entertainment reporting who relies on access "exposes" something they know that's at variance with the public narrative. Their job is promotional. As sour as Scott and Tessa's behavior is, nobody wants to be known as the ones who knew something and revealed it without permission. That says they'd do it to others.
DeleteIf they minded their business, kept their business to themselves and didn't complain or explain, fans would calm down. They don't want fans to calm down. They want to remain this phenom that fans desperately want to be together. Desperate, deluded fans. Virtual SO help. Switching it up also keeps them talked about. The "investigative" impulse in fans kicks in. Who is this girl? Who is this guy?
Jessica Dube was in place because Dube/Davison and Virtue/Moir were in similar positions - rising young Canadian stars "with" their skating partner (interesting that Bryce was only officially revealed to be Jessica's boyfriend after it was claimed they were now exes). They received many of the same competitive assignments, were each reliably at Worlds, and attended the same training camps. That's called expedience and consolidating your energy.
DeleteCassie came along because they were doing a reality show and the home town girlfriend fit the story they were promoting. She also superficially resembled Tessa so they could do that fun fun opening shot of Cassie's ballet flats hitting the pavement, encouraging us to think it's Tessa and - OMG, it's the girlfriend! She was gone after Russia and just as well since her "boyfriend" said he was toting two whole condoms to Sochi because not to brag, he was looking to hook up with some new faces.
Then came Kaitlyn Lawes. Lots of cross-promotional synergy there, particularly in the golf space. She now has an actual boyfriend she posts about and the difference in tone and credibility is marked.
Then they were quiet. What fun is that. I think they like to test their power to jerk chains. Everybody was like - well, maybe they're together but on the dl - god speed. It had nearly hit taken for granted stage. Not frenzied enough. This was where Scott and Tessa, two thirtysomethings, if they were really about fending off fans, should have just kept on. It's doable. Hell, Katia Gordeeva was separated from Ilia Kulik for YEARS before they divorced in 2016 and who ran to the internet to announce it? They divorced in 2016 and that fact wasn't publicized until some time afterwards. People didn't know? People knew.
She maintained a public profile, competed in and one skating/celebrity competitions on television, didn't deal with the Ilia thing and it was fine (although Ilia's fans policed any discussion on the web and shut it down whenever the subject was even tiptoed towards).
I never understand the claim that SOMEONE would speak up. Do you think Virtue and Moir aren't gossiped about left and right? Say I'm a reporter. I don't drag them in my conversations with other reporters, other skaters and skating adjacent people? I don't joke? It's all I can do not to run to the web and spill it all? What's my incentive? There's no upside. Their neighbors and community don't gossip to each other?
The same goes to everyone else. Everyone who knows has plenty of people to gossip with and opinionate. You think it would be on the web if it were real because that's where you get your info and where you do your skating gossip and discussion. Most of those who know don't get it from the internet, wouldn't get off on spilling it to the internet because to them everyone who counts knows and they can talk about it with them if they feel like it. What would be the upside of making yourself on target on line?
I knew a long time before I started this blog. It wasn't started because I wanted to bust out with what I knew. I started it because Virtue Moir were treating social media like their personal PR platform and every single fan and most of skating was going along with it. Social media isn't a personal PR platform; it's democratic. If you're going to fuck with people, pull their strings, mock them to their face, humiliate and degrade them while pretending to flatter and respect them, make a joke of so many fans who lived and died by their acceptance to Scott's facebook as a friend, or who fell for Virue and Moir's constant bait and switch (Hint Scott and Tessa. Deliver Scott and Jessica), I thought I should demonstrate, via the blog, that social media is a two way street and nothing was stopping anybody from pushing back. Initially I, like everyone else who kind of addresses this on the web, was cryptic. I hinted around. Then I realized that was craven and I came out with it.
But Tessa spent months in Vancouver with Rielly and before he was at her cottage ...
DeleteScott , no one knew where he was before Gkp video
No she didn't. That's what they showed, that's not what the reality was.
DeleteTessa has also showed off "her home" on youtube - that's not her home. They lie.
Scott was with Tessa.
It is the her cottage , not her house in London
DeleteTessa doesn't have her own property. And she's not in "her cottage" with Morgan Reilly.
DeleteIt is her mum’s cottage for sure ....always the same place when she is in bayfield
DeleteThe cottage is her safe place
DeleteThat sounds like interview or instagram pablum from Tessa. Her "safe space" is Scott and their kids.
DeleteOC when you have time could make a post from your comments? These are so good, thank you for answering everything.
DeleteI guess I could do that and this week I have time. I could do "from the comments section" and post all the stuff. If I could clean up the sloppy (or nonexistent) transitions and typos that would be an additional plus.
Deletewell, it's supposed to happen today, so I guess we'll find out
ReplyDeleteWell, it didn't happen like I told you all. And now he said that he wants to get Tessa back in the rink.
DeleteAny other predictions?
DeleteI hope definitely , forever cancelled but I think only postponed due to covid
DeleteTessa said , next time she will be on ice it will be with Rielly...
Don't forget the central message of their reality show was Scott isn't gay. He's a real man. He has a hot girlfriend who will be in Russia for the 2014 games but he's also bringing condoms cause why limit himself? Tessa pines for him. There was a quick shot of him pulling off his shirt to show off the hairless bird chest (kidding, he's in shape) and we were all supposed to fan ourselves. He smirked over Tessa's hottest athlete picture which is not something a platonic partner would do out of respect, but Scott's a real man. Remember him peeing by a fence, riding an ATV out on a farm and then shooting stuff?
DeleteGay panic. Scott is gonna be 33 in September. The 2 year girlfriends are going to start looking Clooney-esque (old school Cloone) or like beard situations. But an engagement? That's an uplevel.
I think for a long time that's the only part of Scott and Tessa's sham that unsettled those close to him. But what if they think he's gay? Because he didn't just have virtual girlfriends, he enacted a relationship at a level that is barred to Tessa (cause I think Scott would meltdown). It's overcompensation and gay panic.
You talk about his exes but what about Jackie? You don't talk about her much
DeleteHi, if you are talking to me, Scott doesn't have any exes. He has previous virtual relationships promoted on social media but those were not real relationships. His real life is a wife (Tessa) and young kids. He and Tessa have been together since their teen-age years. The kids are young, although the eldest will be in double digits, age wise, before too long.
DeleteJackie Mascarin happened when Scott and Tessa were not competing. I have never been able to womp up a lot of interest in anybody's show skating or the tour scene, including theirs so I was placeholding the blog as I want to keep it up until some sort of natural conclusion takes place. I'll know when I see it.
I came across the info that he was "dating his first partner." It just struck me as a classic Moir-side malicious move. They absolutely could not resist the "He's dating his partner - his FIRST partner!" spin and getting the fans in an uproar. For years they've poked at what they think is the hornet's nest, making everything as extra as possible. I think they want to maximize fan reaction. If it were just another Cassie or a quiet professional type like Kaitlyn Lawes people wouldn't be stirred up.
This is a theory based on observing them for years. I think they made a mistake because you don't mess with MAGA stuff and mock reactions to it, you don't bring serious real world shit into your social media presence just to prompt a reaction from the public. Tessa using COVID to promote her relationship with Reilly to add credibility to her lying is repellent. Although of course the Mascarin thing is on Tessa as much as Scott and the Reilly thing is on Scott as much as Tessa because these are decisions they sign off on together.
I think you can see how fans are treated by them. And how some fans get angry and excited and other fans try to perform how mature and understanding they are, and thus better than the upset fans. VM LOVE that shit.
DeleteThe articles that reported his engagement did not make the engagement the storyline. The fan reaction was the storyline. That's the angle VM's team sent out for publication. Shipper fans must be gutter dwellers because they are always referenced in a patronizing, contemptuous way in these articles and given instructions, "Sorry fans!" and an implicit "Grow up!"
AT this point I don't think even the most fervant promoters of their sham from their Skate Canada days, not even the biggest idiots, would care to justify their current carrying on and how it is promoted. I'm going to throw in one more comment below this one.
This whole episode shows how VM just always want to push the line. They have no sense of scale. On some level, and despite their supposed poise and brains, they must be attention addicts. Why is their current story that they don't speak or communicate and aren't in touch? Some fans have decided that's because Scott and Tessa must have had a fling that ended badly. No. If that was the reality, real people would say, "We live in separate countries and states but stay in touch with text and email and enjoy getting together when we see each other" even if they didn't do any such thing. They can't do that. They have to do, "Tessa? Don't know her." Always extra, just the way they designed the "rift" story back in 2010.
DeleteOk, one more. Scott and Tessa decided to retire. They needed a storyline for this phase, because of course they do. I have described why I think they went with Mascarin (in addition to everything else, she seems to have ties to Cara Moir). Scott is also getting to be of an age where if he's unpartnered OMG does that mean all this time he's not straight? And Tessa's getting to the age that now that she's not part of an ice dance team, maybe she needs to get a partner too.
DeleteAs I said I think they are moving into new, post career territory and not doing a good job of it, not that their previous decisions would win any awards.
I've re-read the post and can't find where anyone would think the relationships are forced.
ReplyDeleteAssuming all you are saying true, they are truly disgusting people.
ReplyDeleteWell, maybe you can help me figure out how disgusting because I waver with it.
DeleteAs I said, I started the blog not because of the lies per se, but the behavior on facebook. They treated fans like shit. Set up their expectations, tricked them, then fans would self-recriminate. "It's our fault! They don't owe us anything!"
Scott's relatives all had public facebooks and the only photos they'd ever put on facebook were Jessica and Scott. Almost the entire family was in Vancouver for the Olympics and none of their Olympic image product showed the damn two people they were there to support. Every other skating parent would have photos of their kid and their kid's partner. Scott and Tessa announced at the Worlds press conference they were going to Monaco (I think it was related to their wedding there in the past fall but officially they were just visiting.) They were very coy and hint-y about it. Naturally the fandom was super excited. Here comes an album on Alma Moir's facebook. "After Worlds! Our trip to Monaco!" Fans of course dive in. Jessica. Jessica Jessica Jessica. Fans KNEW Tessa was there - it wasn't a secret, so why did the album have no Tessa at all? That's just weird. As I said at the time, there was such a malicious mean girl juvenile quality to it. Bait and switch. Scott and Tessa saying they're going to Monaco, then Alma announces pics, and it's all Jessica. "Psych!" Scott and Tessa used their relationship as bait then executed the sting. TBC
BTW as soon as I started this blog the family facebooks went private or shut down. No longer could friends of friends see them. Also Skate Canada planted its ass in my stats.
DeleteThen Scott announces that he is no longer going to have a page and I forget the rest of it but he pretends he's getting rid of his facebook completely. All kinds of fans are no longer friends. However his friend count and the status of his facebook are still visible and basically he deletes a bunch of fans but keeps others and the fans who were kicked out can see they were chosen to be deleted while others got to stay. Now, was Scott doing his own facebook - I feel dubious but he put his name on it and he owns how he did it. Lots of hurt feelings and then the typical fan flagellating "He owes us nothing!" I'm thinking dude, own it, you're a fan, he had a facebook with fans on it, you were one of them, he announces he's shutting it down but doesn't - it's just a pretext to get rid of you and nobody is bothering to pretend that's not what is going on.
My thing is I know fans can be silly and they themselves struggle with it but Scott and Tessa SET THEM UP. It's gaslighting to the nth degree and they've always always done it. Always always used their relationship as a come on and bait and then when fans rise to the bait, they trigger the sting. That's bad behavior. Unnecessary for protecting privacy.
There's a thing with pictures (on a blog post from years ago) when Scott was setting up an obvious sting and the blog called it out before it happened. He responded by posting a bunch of pics of him and Tessa which I thought was nice and him recognizing that his previous tactics had been mean.
DeleteThen in France at one competition, suddenly he and Tessa show up in a random Skype. Tessa is actually batting her eyes. They are talking about their program Funny Face, and how their intention is to spend the day going around Paris visiting all the places that related to their character. There is no point at all to this Skype (or the silly Funny Face highlights tour) if they're not going to post pics later. I found it weird they had a whole Skype for this, were hitting it hard, and obviously setting up fans for pics of them. Which I knew was a set up - it's how they roll. I posted the Skype on this blog and said what's coming isn't Scott and Tessa pics, but Jessica and Scott pics. Nobody clued me into their plans but it was obvious. Nothing followed. NO pics. Until a year later when pics of Jessica posing a la Funny Face in Paris landed on the web. Someone took a picture of Scott taking her picture so that was the plan, but first they had to prime the pump for maximum attention and fan distress.
The fact is they are married and have a family. AND their professional skating career is over, and their current storyline is they live separate lives and are rarely in touch.
DeleteOne could argue that everything that came before were PR tactics to amplify their celebrity while simultaneously demonstrating their market value to potential brand partnerships. That's no different than dating your co-star. Scott and Tessa are actually married, so the rationale would be to use their chemistry for the regular reasons (enhance their celebrity) but "protect their privacy" with virtual, social media romances - IOW ye old having your cake and eating it too. But, the manner in which it was done had the kinds of excess and sometimes cruelty - and yes, I think you can be degrading and cruel even to fans - that suggested other things were at work. What all of them are, I don't know. Obviously there's a sunk cost fallacy at play, but that still doesn't explain the mean streak.
I should probably have made this another blog post considering how much I'm commenting this weekend (I'm away from home) but I'll just continue here for now. I haven't checked the blog history but I think the "shaming" photo post and response may have been about two things. That even after Olympics and Worlds Scott and his family, who accepted a gazillion fans to their facebooks, never had even work-related pics of Scott and Tessa. Then why were they accepting fans? They knew fans requested friendship in hopes of seeing Scott and Tessa pics. Not personal life. Just the routine pics any skater would post - here we are waiting to board the bus. Here's us and our coach conferring by the board. A fun night with our team. Family! But even the most inoccuous, plantic-y output was never shared, yet they accepted fan requests by the dozens. Virtue and Moir fans. But the book - From Childhood Dreams to Gold" had tons of Virtue and Moir photos "on the bus", hanging out, at rehearsal, etc. So I thought, oh, they want fans to PAY for every image of Virtue and Moir, no matter how anodyne the image. They're trying to create a scarcity. On the blog I posted pics side by side, identical pics - Scott with Jessica in a generic side by side pic before the opening ceremonies parade, Scott with Tessa in a generic side by side pic before the opening ceremonies parade. One was free (Jessica). The other, you had to buy the book. I think Scott (or his team) felt called out for self-important money grubbing so v. shortly suddenly and for the first time Tessa/Scott pics appeared on his fb.
DeleteAnyway, that is the kind of behavior the blog chronicled and the reason this blog started. I was startled at some of what I considered boundary breaching - having Jessica pose with Scott's newborn niece, for example. Using an infant to promote bullshit.
DeleteBut the Big Lie itself (or at least the pretense considering it's an open secret) - is that awful? Can we separate out how they do and and what they're doing? The "how" is deplorable. It is aggressively fan shaming, it shows resentment, control freakery, it humiliates whole groups of people, even as that group participates in its own shaming and says, "Well we asked for it." I think Scott and Tessa also encourage wild fan speculation to make fans look even more intrusive and over-invested. They CUE this stuff. They create scenarios to encourage it. Their PR people send stories to outlets with those angles. Nobody is checking for them like they pretend. The stuff that's written about them and suddenly every outlet has the same story is from THEM, from Virtue and Moir.
I think they were startled at the Scott and quarantine kerfluffle because how dare fans go off narrative and focus their attention on something they weren't instructed to focus on.
The reality show is its own animal and the worst parts of it were the vulgarity, disrespect and misogyny that permeated the fictitious narrative of Cassie/Tessa/Scott/Condoms/Scott's friends/Tessa's photoshoot. And the idiocy. Some of the idiocy was pitched to the level of the viewers they assumed would be watching but some of the idiocy was just theirs, I'm pretty sure.
With this stuff, using MAGA as a prop for Scott's new "pairing" is obscene. Tessa using COVID and quarantine-ing to promote both freaking Nivea and try to make her Reilly thing seem credible is also obscene. They are pathologically self-absorbed and I don't think growing up has helped. It's only calcified it. Even when they were in their twenties, they thought everything was about them, which led to some startling moments, like the time they were meant to be promoting London Ontario attractions and businesses but thought the questions were about them. The questions were clearly about London. They hear everything and anything and think it's about them.
It's disgusting because they are selling lies and living fake lives. I don't care it's just their public lives, it's truly gross. If they really have kids, and their first born is almost ten, that kid and her siblings are growing up in the house of lies and I can't even imagine seeing their lies on paper etc. Because kids today see everything.
DeleteI agree, even though it's just for public consumption, it's wrong. Their actual life is their actual life. They do have kids. There's a ton of photo shoots with Jessica. Taken overall they may be innocuous, but he's not an actor. You can see the fake, but the poses are what they are. Most likely their eldest is more interested in their own life than their parents' life, but that is still a lot of insensitive trash Scott and Tessa have put on the internet. I feel, though, that Scott and Tessa's position would be these are our kids, you don't know what they've been told, you've only got the lens we show you and not the full picture, our kids are our business and butt out.
DeleteThe blog and its comments used to think and talk about the kids and what Scott and Tessa had put on the internet a lot. Jesus God, that reality show. What if the kids come across Jessica/Scott and Cassie Scott?
As it happens, it seems a lot has been scrubbed and most of what remains is on this blog.
I think all of this is bad, and I agree, but at the end of the day, the blog focus has been more about how they treat skating fans. Fans with a shipping interest are easy to mock, but BUT, for me it really has always come down to how they jerk fans around and make them show themselves, then blame them. That's incredibly mean and it's power tripping. They have status, fans don't, the fans will be mocked because Virtue and Moir have set them up - let me say that again - because Virtue and Moir have SET THEM UP. This has gone on years. Then Virtue and Moir will play the understanding, empathetic targets of fan obsession. They'll be the adorable, patient Scott and Tessa even as they continually stir the shit. I don't like that. The media outlets that enable this know the reality and still enable this. Look at the wide net. Shipper fans feel like asses - we fell for the kissy stuff they put on the ice and the lovey dovey stuff they marketed in interviews! "Rational" fans will BE asses, humiliated without knowing it. They're the ones who kind of wax sane in a self-congratulatory way - it's their lives, not ours, we have to separate reality from fantasy, the reality is they are different people with separate lives. And on and on. I've read the lectures. All wrong. Scott and Tessa are together. They've made people in the wrong and people in the right all look foolish and deluded. That takes intention.
The figure skating demo has always been treated with contempt because most are women. That shouldn't fly anymore today but VM hasn't caught up. Then a huge number are middle aged, which we know is the lowest of the low and barely qualify as human anymore - the middle-aged female. Then the intense younger shipper types who are extremely earnest. They assess these people and pull their strings. Since fandom is "voluntary" it's almost like "They had it coming" or "They asked for it." Or "they do it to themselves" which I also find revolting, elitist (in the most unethical way). You don't profit off people while treating them with contempt simultaneously, but that is Virtue and Moir's template.
Last thing I think Tessa's sanctimony on social media has become OTT and is really making me side-eye. The word salady trend of her comments (again, "Wildly thoughtful" someone tell me what that means. "Enlightened wisdom" - as opposed to what other kinds of wisdom) are immaturely try hard. I think putting across this scam has become second nature to the extent she doesn't acknowledge her part in what fans do. She COUNTS on them doing this, that and the other thing. They do something she doesn't like and it's the high horse? Fuck her. This is wrong. She's not qualified to be doing what she's doing, they get away with it because of the sufference of everyone else in their sport and the fact that 99% of the media that covers them are syncophants. It's not on them being clever, strategic, and business minded.
DeleteProbably shouldn't have used a genderless pronoun as I believe everybody in the world knows their eldest is a she.
DeleteYour thoughts about the podcast with Lilah Fear ... certain things are sure fake
DeleteI listened to about a third of it because you mentioned it. I had skipped it because every word they utter in public is fake.
DeleteFirst thing I noticed was where did the vocal fry come from? Tessa didn't used to have that much - maybe she's tired.
Her statement that she "realized" the path they were on once they were in Detroit when she was about 17 was asinine. After the 2010 Olympics she and Scott started lying about both Kitchener and Detroit - I think to pull the veil over the likelihood that Kitchener was when their - let's say romantic - relationship was first fulfilled as very young teens. Tessa lived with a host family, so did Scott, over time it was her mother lived with her and then suddenly her mother was with her in Detroit. All lies. By 17 Scott and Tessa had already spent years with one aim - the 2010 Olympics. But here she is doing her ambivalent routine, her problematic relationship with her own talent, her conflicts about being an elite athlete and blah blah blah. All b.s. This woman is a fanatical athlete, skater and competitor. Fanatical. I think it killed her to retire and if things weren't what they were politically in ice dance, the two of them would have been happy to aim for a fourth gold. To pull the plug likely went against every instinct they have.
I stopped a third of the way through because both Lilah Fear and Tessa started turning into white noise and I zoned out. If they were putting out any kind of real personality, real thoughts and feelings, real experiences, it would be one thing but it's all b.s. and that starts to sound like the womp womp from the Peanuts cartoon.
Third gold, fourth Olympics.
DeleteI know that my comments in this section are really blog posts but I'll stick with that for now.
ReplyDeleteRe how immoral is it - I've wondered about that a lot. They can argue that fans do it to themselves - nobody forces anybody to be fans. Fans can always check out if they don't like it.
But what I think is how they waste people's time. That reality show had a bunch of fans watching because Tessa and Scott swore up and down it was an unvarnished look at their lives. It was a totally made up look at their "lives" lazily ripped directly from popular speculation and fan fiction on the web. It was serialized. Scott especially came in hard on it being a "documentary" not a reality show, and that took fucking balls. No, I want to make my lie BIGGER.
They advertise it as following the pre-Olympic lives of pretty, charming, delightful, happy ice dancers and delivered not just lies, but sour faced, complaining, misogynist bullshit.
Here's the thing. They were willing to have fans sit in front of their computers or TVS and WASTE THEIR TIME believing this was actual stuff. They rob people's energy and head space by appealing to their desire to know a little something real and feeding them instead stuff that's totally made up. So, with their podcasts, their interviews, and this reality show, and the marketing, they are telling fans this is the product, and they are cheating fans of that product. But it's not just cheating, it's wasting fan investment and emotional mental real estate, and they have no problem with it. They feel entitled to that headspace and investment by deceiving fans about what they're getting.
I still haven't totally nailed it down but that is unethical and arrogant.
Rewriting this post to make it more concise. The Mascarin announcement. Interesting to me how the media and often fans fail to mention the massively inappropriate. If it were anyone else, hijacking a ceremony honoring the career of you and your partner to announce your engagement would be eviscerated and the press might even hint it was out of bounds and terribly disrespectful not only to the partnership and the occasion but to those who had organized it. However, everyone around Scott and Tessa are accustomed to being reduced to props for their PR stunts. This was arranged for maximum attention.
ReplyDeleteThen Tessa and Scott's teams blanket the usual outlets with the usual talking points. His engagement is not the story. Fan reaction is the story. The talking points were published so fast most fans hadn't even had time to read or react to the Mascarin info but immediately in the media was the story they were "incensed", they were as usual with V&M out of line and the other usual "Refusing to believe it." SHOW me where other in this blog any fan publicly says they don't believe he's engaged. Some have their theories - he's a MAGA dumbass controlled by his family. I'm happy for him - we need to be adult, no wonder Scott and Tessa are the way they are! and, will this FINALLY convince people they are not together? What does it take.
THe fan reaction reported was not the fan reaction expressed. There hadn't even been time for the fan reaction to process and get expresed. That was just a propaganda drop by VM - another attempt to flex and their media surrogates acted like the mouthpieces they always do, reporting not on what fans do but on what VM tell them to say fans do.
What I would say is that Scott and Tessa kept doubling down. There were opportunities to come clean, most obviously during her first pregnancy. Everyone would have understood two "kids" with the hopes of their country on winning a gold medal in Vancouver not wanting the additional pressure and scrutiny on their real (versus virtual) relationship.
ReplyDeleteI know that numerous people in their circles, both skating and their community, never in a million years anticipated this thing going on as long as it has. Maybe Scott and Tessa themselves didn't initially look down the road that far. And maybe these people took on face value the reasons Scott and Tessa had for putting a false front on social media and backed off when those reasons disappeared and Scott and Tessa kept putting up a false front on social media and continued to troll their fan base.
Tessa may love to talk about being a businesswoman, finishing her degree and pursuing her MBA, becoming an entrepreneur, but what she actually is right now is an influencer. The same sponsored posts, collaborations and paid tweets as every other garden variety influencer on social media.
She and Scott also have their show money, their competition money, their endorsement money, I imagine the family money on the Virtue side, and whatever they've invested in over time.
Influencers are being cancelled left and right.
I am of two minds. One theory is, Tessa and Scott are "exposed" (meaning officially and publicly) and Tessa is immediately cancelled. Poof goes her influencer career.
The other theory is most of their post-Pyeongchang public profile is promoted and pitched stories from Virtue and Moir's own PR. If they were exposed but VM's PR didn't cover it, how much organic coverage would it receive? I keep googling sectors that Virtue and Moir have been cultivating a presence, but if you don't plug in Virtue and Moir, they don't come up. They don't even come up a lot where Canadian athletes are prominent. Most of their PR and coverage is self-generated.
Then there's the gazillion people and organizations that proactively lied their asses off for VM. Every single person in Skate Canada and all the skaters. Basically everybody in elite skating, period. Skate Canada had lying about Virtue and Moir as its primary PR brief for years. All of those who've interviewed Virtue and Moir. The W Network.
That's just a lot. When people get cancelled the timeline and other contributing aspects are sometimes ignored or someone grabs the narrative to flatter the person getting cancelled and throw the blame elsewhere. Since so MANY people pushed this thing, I'm curious how they'd handle this. Admit it? Pretend they were helping VM maintain privacy? Report it as news as if it wasn't something they knew about since it started and even helped push?