tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post3280737913605993159..comments2024-03-15T09:03:33.742-07:00Comments on Jessica Dube Loves Scott Moir: Three years in the makingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-48422729731388798942013-09-21T22:29:25.070-07:002013-09-21T22:29:25.070-07:00There's also a good SD analysis by BKFan on V/...There's also a good SD analysis by BKFan on V/M's FSU thread. I love how we as V/M fans can back up why V/M are superior. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-44284946230468228722013-09-19T21:05:57.206-07:002013-09-19T21:05:57.206-07:00Not to hijack this discussion to W/P lovefest, but...Not to hijack this discussion to W/P lovefest, but I just saw their FD and LOVED it. <br /><br />The one move at 1:35 is more difficult and in keeping with the character of the tango than D/W's entire junk-ass 2011 FD:<br /><br />W/P:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kCH306U0tM<br /><br />D/W:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbF4NjyueiwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-71397564527508671052013-09-19T16:55:52.385-07:002013-09-19T16:55:52.385-07:00Totally agreed, OC, and can't wait to see V/M&...Totally agreed, OC, and can't wait to see V/M's FD compares to this crap. But on the basis of this competition alone, W/P's FD had so much more content, difficulty and actual SKATING than D/W, and they certainly nailed the tango flavour than D/W ever did in their pathetic 2011 "tango". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-86806197268530560662013-09-19T13:25:50.905-07:002013-09-19T13:25:50.905-07:00It may be true but that's an immaterial distra...It may be true but that's an immaterial distraction from the issue that counts - this program is empty. The skating is one dimensional, one directional, the team is skating far far apart, and they're using lunges and other low to the ice moves to create a footprint. It's simplistic and being touted as difficult. It may be difficult for a number of non-skating reasons, but it's not difficult or high level skating or ice dance.<br /><br />I want to break it up into gifs but I think it's better to wait until Virtue and Moir debut their long program and then compare. I have a feeling their program will have actual content.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-47342169554732830242013-09-19T13:01:02.715-07:002013-09-19T13:01:02.715-07:00Nobody was suggesting he didn't have athsma, w...Nobody was suggesting he didn't have athsma, we're quite aware of the fact. My point is he didn't used to seem so out of breath, and is it because they're working against their skates the entire way through. (btw, that's NOT something that should be happening in figure skating).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-16772719208070029712013-09-19T11:13:32.209-07:002013-09-19T11:13:32.209-07:00Ahahahaha great!! so true!Ahahahaha great!! so true!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-44190155221511988872013-09-18T17:47:49.387-07:002013-09-18T17:47:49.387-07:00Charlie does have asthma, yes.
http://latimesblog...Charlie does have asthma, yes.<br /><br />http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/olympics_blog/2009/03/strong-medicine.html<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-50554088530710114262013-09-17T20:31:33.153-07:002013-09-17T20:31:33.153-07:00Indeed...they actually looked like a man and woman...Indeed...they actually looked like a man and woman dancing. D/W look like they're playing dress-up in Disney cartoon character clothing and masquerading as ice dancers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-17948785416528793102013-09-17T19:48:35.243-07:002013-09-17T19:48:35.243-07:00Saw Weaver/Poje's FD online. Wonderful tango c...Saw Weaver/Poje's FD online. Wonderful tango character (unlike that other team in 2011).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-48345215363597766602013-09-17T17:30:42.699-07:002013-09-17T17:30:42.699-07:00Because everybody is ignoring that they're not...Because everybody is ignoring that they're not skating in between. They're skating WIDE open. Everybody has just decided to ignore the pumping, ignore the arms' length and the lunging and the two feet. They're ignoring the lack of speed because Meryl and Charlie are doing a lot of deep knee bends that make it look "sweeping". It's Emperor's New Clothes. Nothing on the ice is holding them up. The JUDGES are holding them up. Politics is holding them up.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-19736251255089235852013-09-17T15:37:50.522-07:002013-09-17T15:37:50.522-07:00How is it even possible that their inferior skills...How is it even possible that their inferior skills are holding them up? You'd think this approach would expose their weaknesses, not do them any favors. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-91446836876978973172013-09-17T14:55:08.884-07:002013-09-17T14:55:08.884-07:00I also look at program talk as so much talk. It...I also look at program talk as so much talk. It's storyline; it's part of the sales job - what inspired it, when it was decided upon, the whole works has, I'm guessing, more to do with telling a nice story than the actual process.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-41227378907994552402013-09-17T11:13:51.509-07:002013-09-17T11:13:51.509-07:00Meryl's extreme thinness and the very feminine...Meryl's extreme thinness and the very feminine costume help finesse what are clunky, awkward, etc. etc. mechanics and transitions. It's the difference between seeing somebody with three dimensional contours doing something and the illusion of Tinkerbell, tiny and sparkly, doing the same. oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-58941123997564922642013-09-17T10:49:59.213-07:002013-09-17T10:49:59.213-07:00I think their speed is the same - they're not...I think their speed is the same - they're not covering ice at great speed compared to Virtue and Moir. The lunging tries to cover a lot of ice, holding each other at arms' length tries to create the illusion of covering ice (because they're literally occupying a larger footprint doing that) but their blades are the same speed as before; they've just eliminated the scrambling feet and are using open choreography and leaning to visually occupy more space on the ice, making it look less small.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-45307356471219240302013-09-17T04:48:53.680-07:002013-09-17T04:48:53.680-07:00@Anon 10:04: bang on about taking a war horse and ...@Anon 10:04: bang on about taking a war horse and turning on its head. D/W's Shez routine is cliche down to the costumes...nothing new or memorable about the choreography (if you consider lunging, hopping, bastardized lifts and recycled juniorish twizzles choreography). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-6757431274397576592013-09-16T22:13:17.635-07:002013-09-16T22:13:17.635-07:00What's funny is now some D/W fans are admittin...What's funny is now some D/W fans are admitting ND was a weak program. Why they think this FD is strong is beyond me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-81672436937718780972013-09-16T22:04:40.116-07:002013-09-16T22:04:40.116-07:00I don't think Meryl was insulting V/M about mu...I don't think Meryl was insulting V/M about music choices...<br /><br />I'd like to look at it another way: V/M took so long to choose their music because not just any kind of music will do. V/M considered very carefully what they want to put on the ice for this Olympic season, what they want to say with their skating, taking into account how much they've grown technically and artistically. Even last season when they chose Carmen, a skating warhorse, they did so with the full intent of creating a fresh interpretation. <br /><br />Years from now, we will still be remarking on their audacity to take that modern direction. Who remembers Notre Dame as a program, even just a few months after its last outing? But many people from both fan camps as well as the more neutral fans are still talking about Carmen (for good or ill). <br /><br />Every lift, twizzle and footwork passage this Olympic season will have been created to fully serve V/M and Marina's vision for the Glazunov/Scriabin FD--of that I have no doubt.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-58092152959659220092013-09-16T20:38:04.385-07:002013-09-16T20:38:04.385-07:00she is obviously insulting v/m since v/m recently ...she is obviously insulting v/m since v/m recently said it took them forever to carefully chose their musicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-84516751943344925382013-09-16T19:07:53.020-07:002013-09-16T19:07:53.020-07:00But Charlie's out of breath pretty much anywhe...But Charlie's out of breath pretty much anywhere these days, isn't he? I'm sure it's legit, but you have to wonder why it didn't use to be as much of a problem. As has been discussed before, they don't allow their skating to help them through a program, and therefore it's sheer stamina they use. Impressive, but not skating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-86569733444175591282013-09-16T18:42:52.127-07:002013-09-16T18:42:52.127-07:00It's not as high as Colorado Springs, but it&#...It's not as high as Colorado Springs, but it's somewhere between 4,000 and 5,000 feet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-4152994464375749222013-09-16T18:39:53.475-07:002013-09-16T18:39:53.475-07:00Is SLC at altitude?Is SLC at altitude?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-48910263546961500392013-09-16T17:56:12.250-07:002013-09-16T17:56:12.250-07:00Meryl - just stop. This from a team that can't...Meryl - just stop. This from a team that can't even put an interesting exhibition program together. Please if this was the final product of 2-3 years of love - then no you haven't pushed the boundaries of skating. I would be willing to be a little lenient on Meryl with the lifts if she was able to outedge Tessa, outspin Tessa, outtransition Tessa or skate on one foot longer than Tessa but that's not the case. Actually if the female US Olympic gymnastics team had to choose between Meryl or Tessa - it would be Tessa hands down. Actually they would take Maia Shibutani before Meryl. Yes perhaps I am being harsh but Meryl knows D/W are being gifted and to make this type of statement is arrogant. Basically their FD is designed for them NOT to fall. With regards to the back-pack lift - it might win some fans over - but it just emphasizes - exposes how little Meryl can do without being thrown like a projectile..it appears juniorish because Charlie is doing the work...you get the same impression when pairs team start working together - the guy just overpowers the girl..however at the senior level - the best teams are an equal partnership irregardless of height difference. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-80442849117348108832013-09-16T17:27:46.464-07:002013-09-16T17:27:46.464-07:00Yup, just like the judges asked them to keep a lif...Yup, just like the judges asked them to keep a lift last year, and Meryl had always wanted to skate to Notre Dame, and it had nothing at all to do with dumping the Sinatra FD...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-52745624765965156692013-09-16T16:02:26.509-07:002013-09-16T16:02:26.509-07:00http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/
"Davis revea...http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/<br /><br />"Davis revealed an interesting background fact in the press conference afterwards. Most ice dancers might think about what kind of music they want the following season, but they do not actually start working on the project until the season begins, and sometimes lose a lot of time because they can’t get the music just right.<br /><br />But not this team! “Charlie and I were really excited to debut this program. It’s a program we have kind of been crafting with Marina for a couple of years now, with some of the elements, and the music is something we’ve been thinking about for a while. ”<br /><br />They're going to deflect any criticism of ripping off V/M this way. Pre-empt more like it, they never have to deflect anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-71221107655427207272013-09-16T12:31:19.626-07:002013-09-16T12:31:19.626-07:00I was rewatching Prince Igor
http://www.youtube.c...I was rewatching Prince Igor <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odrn-svt_do<br />and there are moments I think they'd be incapable of doing now. For some reason, their core strengths and their edges have completely disappeared.<br /><br />Also notice that Charlie didn't almost pass out at the end back then. Does he have late-onset athsma?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com