tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post308118477395013913..comments2024-03-15T09:03:33.742-07:00Comments on Jessica Dube Loves Scott Moir: The guy who lies says we don't have a clueUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-11848075185556186132013-01-26T19:53:09.451-08:002013-01-26T19:53:09.451-08:00I don't see what's hard to wrap the mind a...I don't see what's hard to wrap the mind around. We all know figure skater facebooks are fan central. Most of the skaters have tons of fans as friends. They also have some media, other skaters and skating personnel, personal friends, and family. Anyone in the media who makes a friend request to some skater's facebook is going to be as much a fan/supporter as they are media/professional. We can see now, simply from the comments on various skater facebooks that the media are skater friends - professional friends, sure, but friends and make no mistake, fans. They're not going to transform into some muckraker just because Scott and Tessa misrepresented their status. They wouldn't be on some skater's damn facebook if they were. <br /><br />Also except for the obvious names, all of the people in media have other stuff to cover. They're not chronicling all this Scott and Tessa stuff. They're not on some Scott and Tessa beat. They do a Scott and Tessa piece a couple of times a year or so and in between they cover entirely different stuff. They're all on deadline, they all have to get what they need for their article in a constricted time period, write and submit the thing, and done and probably not on their facebook.<br /><br />Look at Milton. He's STILL writing odes to platonic passion. That other idiot resurrected the lip bump ridiculousness. <br /><br />I can tell you now how it will play out. There will be nothing to play out. <br /><br />What I believe is that any fallout will unwind over time and take place where it takes place now on the web. For the most part, I guarantee the majority of fans will be on Scott & Tessa's side because they want to show off themselves as being understanding, and because they find the blog and blogger obnoxious and don't want the blog to be "right" or "have the satisfaction." However if either Scott or Tessa want a public voice in the world of skating, that's where they may get pushback, because they were huge scammers and liars and have pretty much forfeited any standing they might otherwise have had to comment or offer opinions on what's going on with others in the world of skating on or off the ice. That's where they might find themselves hamstrung.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-46396871622685940592013-01-26T18:56:42.394-08:002013-01-26T18:56:42.394-08:00oc 6:23
It all sounds so logical when you put it ...oc 6:23<br /><br />It all sounds so logical when you put it that way. But wow, it's hard for my mind to wrap around how easily such a years-long hoax could be dismissed. I'm very interested in seeing how this all plays out and so far I would have to say you've been right on target.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-20602825093614715952013-01-26T18:23:40.449-08:002013-01-26T18:23:40.449-08:00Accepted as true by who? That "in spite of&qu...Accepted as true by who? That "in spite of" you mention is pretty huge. "In spite of seeing the facebook spam and accepting Jessica and Scott as true, media personalities just went along with Scott and Tessa's story that most fans believed they were together."<br /><br />The two things don't fit. If they accept it as true based on having seen facebook, they're not going to act like they don't know the answer to the relationship question.<br /><br />Your scenario supposes media people saw the photos, accepted them, and believed that Jessica and Scott were a romantic couple, yet when they interviewed Scott and Tessa, never asked him about having a fellow skater as a girlfriend, never mentioned facebook to him, never brought up Jessica at all, and instead asked questions about Scott and Tessa dating and fans confusing reality with fantasy, as if there was no facebook for fans to look at. But when Scott and Tessa come clean, these same media people will hold their feet to the fire, not allow them to misrepresent fan behavior, and say "whoa guys, what about all that facebook spam?"<br /><br />IOW, these media types will transform into completely different people due to a reveal? <br /><br />What explains them never bringing Jessica up to Scott, or never writing about Jessica themselves, if they accepted it as true and saw facebook?<br /><br />That hypothesis just isn't rational.<br /><br />I believe that those media fb friends of Scott and Jessica's fell into one of two categories - knew the whole thing was bogus but didn't give it a ton of thought otherwise, as is the case with most fan stuff - or bought into it and also didn't give it much thought and are unlikely to turn into expose' mode once the facts are out. They're skating reporters/media - not investigative journalists.<br /><br />It wasn't acknowledged while it was happening. There is no logic in believing that it will be acknowledged when Scott and Tessa's real status is known. Do we honestly believe anyone in the media is going to drag stuff up aimed at fans - if they even saw it? There was a reason Scott and Tessa chose social media to market this thing. Honestly there isn't going to be some retroactive expose or investigation. <br /><br />I'm just interested in the scenario you envision. WHO is going to come out and say "we accepted the facebook as true at the time, but we decided not to talk about Jessica at all when we wrote about Scott and Tessa - it was too much fun to talk about how fans believed Scott and Tessa were together. We liked that hype. However, now that Scott and Tessa have come clean, we must say that was a pretty big scam they pulled off on social media."<br /><br />There's no way.<br />oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-22848201543724183252013-01-26T17:58:22.512-08:002013-01-26T17:58:22.512-08:00That's why I'm extremely skeptical that th...That's why I'm extremely skeptical that the deal went south because VM wore non-Roots gear somewhere when they weren't supposed to. Sponsors are frequently very forgiving about that - there's no benefit to the sponsor really to get rid of an appealing promotional partnership for that reason. <br /><br />It seems to me that, as did many people around Scott and Tessa, Roots anticipated they'd become public with their true relationship status soon into the partnership. When Scott and Tessa opted out, the partnership dissolved because Roots is too prominant a brand to spend four years promoting a platonic friendship between a couple Roots knows is actually married. The folks at Roots would be questioned more readily than Scott and Tessa themselves. It's also unlikely to be a marketing decision they're comfortable standing behind. If they cover that up, what else would they cover up? It's not good for the brand.<br /><br />ocAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-55118866043344103062013-01-26T17:58:11.187-08:002013-01-26T17:58:11.187-08:00oc 5:51
Has it been "allowed" in part b...oc 5:51<br /><br />Has it been "allowed" in part because in spite of the media not mentioning it, it's accepted as true? That Scott and Jessica dated and all those appearances were the real deal. But what happens when it's acknowledged it was never real? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-62328848898360622252013-01-26T17:51:59.219-08:002013-01-26T17:51:59.219-08:00They're swept under the rug now. How many in t...They're swept under the rug now. How many in the mainstream media have seen them? It's all facebook. I think it will be extremely easy to ignore, and fans are always willing to go along with blaming other fans. All the media went along with "questioning" Scott and Tessa about their relationship status while Scott's facebook status with Jessica and photo spam on facebook and Jessica's presence with the family at major competitions was treated as if it didn't exist. With that stuff years in the past it's even easier. Who will put that in their face? Who, exactly is not going to "allow" it. There's nobody. As regards the Jessica stuff the double game has *already* been allowed.<br /><br />ocAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-9916923304304535592013-01-26T17:30:01.389-08:002013-01-26T17:30:01.389-08:00http://www.canada.com/Target+Canada+sell+Roots+clo...http://www.canada.com/Target+Canada+sell+Roots+clothing+when+chain+launches+here+this+spring/7872511/story.html<br /><br />The above link says Roots Canada had a fashion show on ice with figure skating models.<br /><br />After such a huge Roots' promotion for Virtue/Moir (they said for at least FOUR YEARS) right after the Olympics, I think it's embarrassing that now as far as Roots is concerned it's Virtue/Moir who? <br /><br />Boy, that sure didn't last long. I'd almost say it looks like Roots couldn't get rid of Virtue/Moir fast enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-35891354634289680212013-01-26T17:23:05.730-08:002013-01-26T17:23:05.730-08:004:48
I'm willing to bet that's how Scott ...4:48<br /><br />I'm willing to bet that's how Scott will try to frame things. I'm less willing to bet he'll really get away with it. There is just such an obscene abundance of Scott-Jessica photos, shrewdly posed. I don't see how they provide a rational explanation that would be acceptable and doesn't make them look like complete tools. Not only them, also Scott's parents. You really think the honeymoon-esque pictures from the Dominican plus the Christmas, Monaco and Paris pictures hosted by Alma will be allowed to be swept under the rug? I'm sure they'll try - just not sure it'll really work.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-27891120087191549602013-01-26T16:48:12.098-08:002013-01-26T16:48:12.098-08:00P.S. - I am willing to take cyber bets that when t...P.S. - I am willing to take cyber bets that when the time comes it will be Scott's spin that fans misinterpreted stuff on facebook, projected onto photos - and basically that the sham was all in their runaway imaginations, and that's why he stayed clear of facebook - every five minutes we had him with a new girl!<br /><br />And they'll simply ignore parading Jessica through Ilderton in a horse drawn buggy like a prize heifer at a 4H fair, they'll ignore Alma's Monaco album, and all the other evidence that it was THEM that is still around.<br /><br />The sham story will be turned around to be something that fans blew up in their imaginations, by implication Scott and Tessa will claim it was never shamming, just normal facebook photos with friends from large events like competitions and skater weddings (and family weddings, Christmas, the Dominican will be ignored) and man - the guy couldn't get his photo taken without a billion stories out there!<br /><br />Any takers for that bet?<br /><br />ocAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-58455807651478780922013-01-26T16:40:44.539-08:002013-01-26T16:40:44.539-08:00You are right about the other skaters who need med...You are right about the other skaters who need media attention - what they must feel when they see the fan support extended to VM, how hard fans work to be accepted, and what a waste of time it is because VM just humiliate them. Fans have done nothing to deserve this - VM have made decisions in their own life for which fans are a convenient scapegoat. They're the target VM don't have to face, and they're big avoiders.<br /><br />But I think the lying part is the worst. To get out there and posture like "oh it hurts to have my personality associated with Carmen." It's cruel. It's also cowardly. <br /><br />IMO they show their true character all the time in the way they are willing to behave when they can't be called to account. Journalists don't do their homework, fans don't have a voice, so skaters are free to do this and yet as far as I can see, VM are the only ones who are blatantly meanspirited, publicly two-faced liars when it comes to how they treat fans and speak of fans. <br /><br />The other Canadian skaters are wonderful to their fans. Even Jessica Dube, as much as I don't care for her, was courteous to fans on facebook and acknowledged well wishes and congratulations left by fans.<br /><br />I haven't seen this dynamic either - ever. A lot of public figures will try to hype themselves up to shore up their position and use fans to do it, but it's different. For instance, a common ploy is to claim a big young following or say 'surprisingly, I get a lot of letters from teens' in order to create the impression you're a draw in a desirable demo. Or plant the idea in other ways that you're hot stuff. <br /><br />But lie about the audience/public at large, as a consistent policy, use them as the scapegoat for everything - no. Scott and Tesssa truly are unique there.<br /><br />Again, it says something unpleasant about them, because I believe many other skaters, no matter how they feel about fans and camp followers, would simply be unable to do what Scott and Tessa do, because it's mean. Their instincts and basic empathy could never allow it. Something is hugely screwed up in that area when it comes to Scott and Tessa.<br /><br /><br />ocAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-18719317228725566372013-01-26T16:33:25.280-08:002013-01-26T16:33:25.280-08:00"I was rereading some of these articles you&#..."I was rereading some of these articles you've mentioned. Incredibly, Scott seems to be saying, "How *dare* the fans only want lovey-dovey programs." He not only created these false fan feelings and wishes, he then turned around and basically scolded the fans for their feelings."<br /><br />That's how they roll. All the time. They set fans up then beat them up. They set fans up TO beat them up. And if fans aren't reacting, they lie about them and beat fans up anyway. I don't know where this contemptuous strategy comes from but it's so markedly different than the rest of the skaters whether in Canada, the U.S. or elsewhere.<br /><br />Scott did say that he thought the public could tell that he and Tessa weren't feeling the short dance and I thought - since when does he give the public credit for anything. The public can't tell anything about him and Tessa on the ice; it's all acting, the public is just confusing fantasy and wish fulfillment with reality - but they had a bead on the short dance? Ok.<br /><br />Of course the journalists who write this drivel will continue to write this garbage when Tessa and Scott's status is known. First of all, it's almost guaranteed Scott and Tessa won't man up and face the music themselves - they'll slip it through a third party the way they did the "former girlfriend" newsflash. Scott and Tessa won't own up to anything directly.<br /><br />Second, if they do end up quoted on their status or owning up to it, it will be via one of the tabloid fanboys or girls or via someone for whom an interview with Scott/Tessa will be a career highlight. And fans will get screwed then as well. Scott will complain that he couldn't even be seen with a woman on facebook without fans thinking it was his girlfriend, and the reporter will spin it like it's fact. It seems to me they are setting fans up to eat it with this Cassandra bullshit. Get a lot of photos out there of Scott being affectionate with one particular girl. But don't declare the relationship. Mix it up - for example, when you pose with a foursome, you're with this girl and your buddy is next to a girl who is not your buddy's girlfriend.<br /><br />See what they did there? "See what they did there" is this year's sham strategy. Scenarios that can be taken both ways, but the fans are absolutely intended to take her as his girlfriend. And then they'll be scoffed at and blamed for taking the bait. Poor Scott. Can't even hang with friends on facebook in photos released before major Canadian competitions focusing on Scott with one girl in particular who positions the photos prominently on her public facebook without fans getting confused and making assumptions when they know nothing.<br /><br />That seems about how it will go.<br /><br />ocAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-75881085980623490552013-01-26T14:48:11.132-08:002013-01-26T14:48:11.132-08:00I was rereading some of these articles you've ...I was rereading some of these articles you've mentioned. Incredibly, Scott seems to be saying, "How *dare* the fans only want lovey-dovey programs." He not only created these false fan feelings and wishes, he then turned around and basically scolded the fans for their feelings. I don't understand why it's so hard for them to be appreciative of the fans' enthusiasm for every one of their programs (which is easily documented going back to their junior days - these "reporters" are unbelievably sloppy journalists). Is it really that much of a bigger story to invent controversies that don't exist? <br /><br />I cannot imagine how other skaters who need the media attention feel when they see all the fan-love continually extended to VM, and then seeing VM constantly turn on their fans, humiliating them and treating them like trash. I don't think I've ever witnessed this kind of dynamic between a beloved celebrity and his/her fans. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-19194395543968832702013-01-26T08:26:36.653-08:002013-01-26T08:26:36.653-08:00P.S. - Scott and Tessa certainly do find the irrat...P.S. - Scott and Tessa certainly do find the irrationality fun, however, and have enjoyed jerking their chains.<br /><br />oc, not logged inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-76318848175690576902013-01-26T08:24:40.606-08:002013-01-26T08:24:40.606-08:00We'll disagree on how fun irrationality in fan...We'll disagree on how fun irrationality in fandom is, especially based on some of the discussion and behavior that takes place and how they can treat not only one another, but the subjects of their fandom.<br /><br />They question VM all the time themselves. For example they openly speculate that VM are in denial of their feelings, or that something other than what Scott and Tessa say is going on must be going on. They interpret and spin - so the fb itself isn't entirely respectful of what Scott and Tessa do and say, and that's before we get to open speculation about their intimate lives with other people.<br /><br />I believe the problem is they think the blog scares Scott and Tessa away and reduces the access they think they have to Scott, especially. Some of them have complained that because of the blog they no longer "get all kinds of things" from Scott - meaning pictures. They never got anything in the first place - everything on facebook was faked specifically to con them. But I don't think they actually care - they'd rather have the con than nothing, and the reality of the photos isn't really important. <br /><br />oc, not logged inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-13820669684902831482013-01-26T07:32:37.671-08:002013-01-26T07:32:37.671-08:00"Fandom" though is rarely rational. Tha..."Fandom" though is rarely rational. That's the fun of it! No, you didn't use the screen shot from their page to criticize them in any way, but you still used it as a a partial premise to convince people that V/M are liars and yes, that hurts the FB group's feelings. It is what it is and it isn't going to change. Nor will this blog. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-33610366953928494142013-01-25T20:52:42.653-08:002013-01-25T20:52:42.653-08:00Yes, but it has close to a thousand members, and t...Yes, but it has close to a thousand members, and those members are free to use the content any way they choose to use the content. <br /><br />Why would they assume the blog can only access the facebook via a public search? Why would they assume that changing the restrictions obligated members to behave as if they were in a secret society? <br /><br />Facebook is PUBLIC. It's meant to be public. Everyone on it knows it or should know it. Once you let in the public - whether as a "group" or via allowing "friends" you don't actually know, you are responsible for how the content is used not the person or entity using the content. <br /><br />oc, not logged inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-90579388694975023462013-01-25T19:25:49.966-08:002013-01-25T19:25:49.966-08:00"Yes and they talk about the blog over there ..."Yes and they talk about the blog over there exactly as they please (which is their perogative)"<br /><br />True, the facebook VM fan page has the prerogative to talk about anything they wish, but it's extremely hypocritical of them to throw these hissy fits about the blog while at the same time they approve and laugh at some conversations they themselves term "dirty." But omg, let anyone try and talk about anything related to this blog and there's immediate rebuke about the terrible awfulness of questioning VM's status quo and I think they've actually banned this subject. <br /><br />Now they've decided they want to be a private page (their prerogative) but not, mind you, because they disapprove the "dirty talk." It's all about a self-righteous attitude about this place. One of the comments above praises these girls' loyalty and protectiveness of VM. No, I don't think so. If it was really about that they would have banned some other certain subjects they've felt free to indulge in over there about VM. The loyalty is toward a certain group of fans only and only if those fans think a certain way.<br /><br />Having said that, that facebook page most definitely has never been critical of VM's Carmen FD nor is there any of the criticism Scott and Tessa talked about in every single freaking interview before Nationals. Which of course was hardly discussed at that place because the loyal/protective fan is not supposed to question anything VM say or do. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-4646942826848342512013-01-25T19:10:54.253-08:002013-01-25T19:10:54.253-08:00I also think this interesting from the angle that ...I also think this interesting from the angle that you give some of highest praise around for their skating. Some DW fans are obsessed with being VM haters, but VM fans are obsessed with you instead. Obviously the skating is secondary for some of these people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-6882648605027252182013-01-25T19:01:05.744-08:002013-01-25T19:01:05.744-08:00I agree with your point, but the facebook group is...I agree with your point, but the facebook group is on the "Secret" setting - ie not found in search, which is what I assume the above poster was referring to. "Closed" is found in search but non members can't see posts, and "Open" is what it was before. But of course, a group that big is most definitely not "secret" in any meaningful way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-46427575084244923842013-01-25T18:06:56.964-08:002013-01-25T18:06:56.964-08:00Yes and they talk about the blog over there exactl...Yes and they talk about the blog over there exactly as they please (which is their perogative) and I used a facebook screen capture to portray them precisely as they are - as defenders of Scott and Tessa who support everything they say and do and have never expressed criticism of or disappointment in the Carmen program.<br /><br />Scott and Tessa were the ones who brought internet fans into the discussion as part of their Carmen talking points for Canadians, and the blog follows what Scott and Tessa do and say that's directed towards or about fans. <br /><br />The facebook was a Scott and Tessa fan site and still is, so their public posting history was relevant to the examination of whether there was any back-up for Scott and Tessa's claims about fans on the web.<br /><br />The facebook also take things from wherever they please around the net - that is also their perogative. But they are also the net and what they do, post and say is also subject to being republished and yes, even now that they are private if one of their members decides to do that. <br /><br />There is no such thing as "scabbed" as that implies a negative. Public places on the web become public domain. The one thing this blog has up on the addicted page is that the blog credits them while they themselves don't return the courtesy or frequently bother to credit sources when they share items of interest. <br /><br />It's amazing to me that some places feel comfortable treating the blog as they will (and I'm comfortable with that too) but also feel that the blog is under some obligation to extend courtesies and respect it doesn't receive. The blog's supposed to treat them as enfeebled special needs cases. Why is that? They're not the point - the Scott and Tessa pr is and so when Scott and Tessa drag internet fans into their pr, internet fans are looked at on the blog.<br /><br />I'm extremely interested as to why the blog makes some fans so furious and emotional. Aunt Joyce's blog for example, has claimed (falsley) that Tessa was spotted with David Pelletier, has said Scott's hip action is for shit and he must be awful in bed, and ontd_skating for the most part hates Scott's ass and rips apart every word out of his mouth as frequently as the blog does although for different reasons.<br /><br />And none create the agitation this place does. The blogger doesn't visit other pages - just stays here. And just staying here, gets a billion hissy fits. And why can't it be ignored as Aunt Joyce and ontd_skating are ignored? I don't think it has anything to do with bashing Scott and Tessa. Plenty of places do that. It's because it harms some fans' fantasies about the connection between Scott and Tessa and their fans.<br /><br /><br /><br />oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-75979936062184210602013-01-25T16:17:38.263-08:002013-01-25T16:17:38.263-08:00Ya, they really did not understand that the blog i...Ya, they really did not understand that the blog is not "illegal" and that if there were something to be done to stop it, it would already be done. I think they were likely upset because you scabbed something from their page to use in one of your attacks. They are loyal fans who love all things Scott and Tessa and are very protective. Good on them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-61183308423364570342013-01-25T14:18:34.602-08:002013-01-25T14:18:34.602-08:00It's private, which is different than secret. ...It's private, which is different than secret. And even then, Facebook is still facebook. Once you have hundreds of members or friends, there's no such thing as private, as Scott and Jessica & the sham crew knew when they had "private" and it could only be seen if you were their friend. If someone isn't hacking the addicted facebook, it's public to members for all intents and purposes, and the facebook can't control how its members use what's there, anymore than Scott or Jessica's facebook could control what got spread around (which they didn't want to, obviously).<br /><br />If the facebook girls want to be "secret" they need to create a "secret" discussion forum. <br /><br />Also, if I am tracking the events properly, what happened is someone over there thought they'd found a "gotcha" on the blog - discovered the blogger's identity. Even weirder, they thought discovering the blogger's identity could shut down the blog - apparently believing that it's illegal and the only reason it hasn't been shut down before is because nobody knows who the blogger is.<br /><br />Then they proceeded to try and share this "find" directly with the subjects of this blog, and went on about it over there, in public. And also came over here to taunt the blogger and call other commentators obscene names. Then when it was realized they didn't have the blogger's i.d. after all, the facebook was made private. <br /><br />I think this is just a bid to pacify the most frequent participants on that space, and I don't blame the site managers of that facebook for that. But holy crap, they are only victims of their own idiocy. They're not the victims of the blog. The blog did nothing to them.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-64018962448767848302013-01-25T12:50:50.142-08:002013-01-25T12:50:50.142-08:00It's private, which is different than secret. ...It's private, which is different than secret. Facebook is still facebook. Once you have hundreds of members or friends, there's no such thing as private, as Scott and Jessica & the sham crew knew when they had "private" and it could only be seen if you were their friend. If someone isn't hacking the addicted facebook, it's public to members for all intents and purposes, and the facebook can't control how its members use what's there, anymore than Scott or Jessica's facebook could control what got spread around (which they didn't want to, obviously).<br /><br />If the facebook girls want to be "private" they need to create a private discussion forum. <br /><br />oc, not logged inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-46594080968974543712013-01-25T11:42:29.929-08:002013-01-25T11:42:29.929-08:00It's a good job that the Facebook group is ~ s...It's a good job that the Facebook group is ~ secret~ now. I'm sure that Tessa and Scott are breathing easier knowing that their honour is being defended. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-55599042342700187942013-01-22T16:38:32.695-08:002013-01-22T16:38:32.695-08:00Anon 12:04
I have to agree with the blogger that ...Anon 12:04<br /><br />I have to agree with the blogger that the criticisms of Carmen have been almost exclusively from rival fans. When it first debuted at Skate Canada I saw a lot of criticism at the Golden Skate forums and not surprisingly, every single negative post was from known Davis/White fans who have a history of finding any possible detail to trash in Virtue/Moir's programs in order to raise Davis/White's profile. No one who follows ice-dance expects these people to have a positive opinion about Virtue/Moir so I wouldn't expect that Scott or Tessa or anyone from their family or coaching team would be looking to them for validation.<br /><br />Blogger is right. The Virtue/Moir fans are more than overwhelmingly thrilled with Carmen. There is no backlash from them nor any comparing of Tessa to Carmen in real life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com