tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post1687590981168705912..comments2024-03-15T09:03:33.742-07:00Comments on Jessica Dube Loves Scott Moir: I don't think this is Rule of the DolphinUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger84125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-83273254120033151832013-09-05T20:42:39.695-07:002013-09-05T20:42:39.695-07:00One thing that really stood out at the time was wh...One thing that really stood out at the time was when Scott and Tessa were scheduled for their London celebration - the London Hall of Fame - the media made quite a point of letting us know that Meryl and Charlie had called and requested invitations to attend. I can't recall what the quotes were, but there was an initial report that they were going, then a fuller article talking about how they'd made a special request.<br /><br />Then the event comes and they're not there. Yes, DW's own plans could have changed, but it was easy to suspect it was VM's plans that had changed, and as they weren't going to reveal, they didn't need DW there as a buffer. Being open as a couple under those circumstances in London practically required outsiders as a buffer, and I wonder if DW were stepping in. Then when the plug was pulled, there was really no need for them to sit through something like that, which is more fun for the participants and those conferring the honors than those receiving the honors, even though of course the honor is appreciated.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-35853960388644588422013-09-05T19:25:59.546-07:002013-09-05T19:25:59.546-07:00Oh, apologies. You're right, it didn't lay...Oh, apologies. You're right, it didn't lay low at all. The stuff prior to, during and immediately after the Olympics was so over the top anything that followed would seem like lying low, but it continued its regularly scheduled broadcast.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-40642587668437610582013-09-05T18:05:40.549-07:002013-09-05T18:05:40.549-07:00OC - I know it doesn't. I was just replying to...OC - I know it doesn't. I was just replying to 2:42's observation that the sham lay low between the Olympics and the book tour. It remained active, though mainstream media was slightly quieter. I'm not commenting on the reveal contingency plans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-42116513497852592812013-09-05T17:55:32.778-07:002013-09-05T17:55:32.778-07:002:42 I guess the answer is that Tessa didn't f...2:42 I guess the answer is that Tessa didn't find hiding and lying stressful. Obviously if this were terribly stressful for them it would be over. What seems to stress them out is telling the truth - about anything. <br /><br />Athletically, many high performance athletes are energized by pregnancy. There's a lot of research on this available on the web, so I won't repeat it here, but it's not as if she were fighting through some depleting experience. For many pregnant elite competitiors, it's the opposite experience.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-11426945396362472722013-09-05T17:51:44.135-07:002013-09-05T17:51:44.135-07:003:29 that really has no relevance to the fact that...3:29 that really has no relevance to the fact that they planned the pregnancy despite knowing the jig might be up. Tessa's pregnancy was early days in the summer of 2010; they didn't know how it would progress. If they were going to reveal the time for that would have been just prior to the GPS. They have always maintained the status quo until suddenly they don't. In 2008 they didn't let it be known Tessa was having surgery until a very short time before their first assignment, even though they knew earlier than that that they wouldn't be competing. They hang onto information like it's going to fund their retirement. oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-64523163226719987042013-09-05T17:46:33.495-07:002013-09-05T17:46:33.495-07:00We posted at the same time, I guess. I just put a ...We posted at the same time, I guess. I just put a full post with all of this, then came down here to read the comments, and here are these quotes/comments. I guess many people are having the same reaction. You couldn't make this up. A script writer would think these people were too cartoonishly awful.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-22138499968721093442013-09-05T15:29:16.408-07:002013-09-05T15:29:16.408-07:00Scott and Jessica continued to sham the entire sum...Scott and Jessica continued to sham the entire summer of 2010. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-48848034065336878722013-09-05T14:42:39.323-07:002013-09-05T14:42:39.323-07:00Agree that we're now just the excuse. They cou...Agree that we're now just the excuse. They could have continued to hide their status, while not shamming to the extent they are.<br /><br />This is 10:28. I'm even more fascinated that this was planned... especially the contingency plan for if she was showing too much. IMO, their book was written like a love story, especially all that stuff about how much Tessa had to rely on Scott early in their time in the US. Every quote from their family members sounds like a story about how a couple got together. The stuff about "although they're not actually in a relationship..." seems so pasted on. It's almost as if they weren't sure by the time they went to print whether it was going to be a love story or a platonic story.<br /><br />Although they were shamming during the Olympics, for a while they were kind of quiet then they really ratcheted it up around the time of the book with the infamous "The platonic passion of Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir" article... some fans on fanforum at the time speculated that the media "felt bad" about hammering them so hard with the couple question during the games, that they were being extra nice to VM by now fully supporting their status of a "special connection," nothing more. Of course, it doesn't work that way. It does seem that maybe they were undecided for a while, and as she got further along, and wasn't showing, they said "ok, we announce the injury and go ahead with the platonic storyline" instead of "we announce that Tessa is pregnant [or go into hiding]."<br /><br />I just don't understand why they do anything they do... why would a woman plan pregnancy, knowing she is going to have to stress herself out hiding it on the ice and on a book tour? It's supposed to be a relaxing time...?<br /><br />That pattern kind of repeated after 2012 worlds as well, with that article about the jacket from a "former girlfriend" it almost seems like they were testing the waters, but nope, by SC, they both had new shams going on. In 2013, they are all in. Maybe they only have second thoughts in even-numbered years.<br /><br />Really, the sham should be charted like on an EKG machine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-66715861539198568962013-09-05T14:23:29.126-07:002013-09-05T14:23:29.126-07:00This part is even better:
“It’s a fly-on-the-wall...This part is even better:<br /><br />“It’s a fly-on-the-wall type series,” Moir said. “People are going to really see what we go through day to day. So much is (usually) just seeing us in makeup and sparkles. So you’ll see me when my hair doesn’t look this pretty, right?”<br /><br />Virtue and Moir said they don’t mind the added attention.<br /><br />“The neat thing is we get to share so much of our story with viewers and with family and friends and fans, and hopefully it’s something that people find interesting,” Virtue said. “I know when I see other athletes I love seeing the behind-the-scenes things, I love seeing the highs and the lows, and we’ve been through so much together, there is a lot of that. You see the tears and you see the laughing fits.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-20966488197343074652013-09-05T14:02:28.357-07:002013-09-05T14:02:28.357-07:00http://metronews.ca/sports/786622/a-summer-spent-o...http://metronews.ca/sports/786622/a-summer-spent-on-rink-in-detroit-for-chan/<br /><br />"The reality series, Moir added, will be a nice keepsake of what will likely be their last season skating competitively.<br /><br />“This is a great point in our career,” Moir said. “We’re healthy athletes and we’re going to another Olympic Games to defend our title. It’s a great part of our lives, let alone our careers.<br /><br />“Being able to document that is fun for us to look back on.” <br /><br />Such a lovely keepsake for the child that will be edited out of their lives for this (and has been edited out of the public record her entire life). I'm sure that will be a lot of fun to look back on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-39606396808301641822013-09-05T13:58:47.420-07:002013-09-05T13:58:47.420-07:00P.S. - I want to reiterate though, although the ab...P.S. - I want to reiterate though, although the above remark seems to contradict it, that obviously while the public is definitely going to be the ones holding the bag for all the bullshit, at this point I think it's clear the public isn't actually the reason the bullshit continues - it is the excuse. The content they choose to create and publicize might be a way they get their jollies at our expense - in fact what the hell else is it - but the actual motives for continuing the sham at this point can't possibly have very much to do with how the public will react, or privacy from fans and media, or any other conventional reason fans might assume. This ain't about us. oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-46535279664813484612013-09-05T13:54:25.902-07:002013-09-05T13:54:25.902-07:00Tessa didn't know she'd be able to hide th...Tessa didn't know she'd be able to hide the pregnancy, that's the thing. The pregnancy was planned, they knew it might need to be announced. If the idea of having their personal lives exposed was such a horror, you don't sandwich a pregnancy in between your Olympic and World titles and the first year of the next Olympic cycle, where you also intend to compete at Worlds. <br /><br />Since they didn't announce it once things worked out so that they didn't have to acknowledge anything, they made the decision to keep on shamming and keep on lying - and of course, why not keep on selling the book too.<br /><br />Of course you've nailed it. The tail has been wagging the dog a long long time, and before the blog.<br /><br />oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-7175562088395726242013-09-05T12:38:42.322-07:002013-09-05T12:38:42.322-07:00To me that facebook site looks more like someone m...To me that facebook site looks more like someone making fun of Scott and Cassandra, not a creation of a person who admires Miss Cass.<br /><br />But I wholeheartedly agree, she's a nobody. We shouldn't know who this person is. It's gross she gets attention for posing in sleazy pictures with Scott Moir.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-58193810769094941092013-09-05T12:37:19.184-07:002013-09-05T12:37:19.184-07:00"If the whole justification is that Moirville..."If the whole justification is that Moirville thinks fans are below dirt, then that's pretty funny, since they're twisting their lives in knots solely because of the fans now."<br /><br />Nailed it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-34575465332233895972013-09-05T12:34:11.767-07:002013-09-05T12:34:11.767-07:00I'm pretty sure it's meant to be mocking h...I'm pretty sure it's meant to be mocking her....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-58800176507109314722013-09-05T11:28:32.847-07:002013-09-05T11:28:32.847-07:00How on earth can Cassandra have a fan ? Like what ...How on earth can Cassandra have a fan ? Like what did she accomplish ? Even if she would date Scott, what would her biggest achievement be to deserve fans ? Wearing tight hot pants at a holi festival is probably enough to count as model, is it ? <br />I still can't believe that Tessa doesn't care about these things. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-25260702018888454472013-09-05T10:28:35.267-07:002013-09-05T10:28:35.267-07:00I can understand that to a point they would use ot...I can understand that to a point they would use other skates to sham to keep the focus of their burgeoning relationship. Don't really understand why you'd want to get married right before the Olympics in that case (to me, it's like getting married right before graduation, but then going to the prom with other people because you don't want anybody to know) but I'll assume they had some emotional/philosophical reason to want to be married then. <br /><br />But once she was pregnant... ????... what in the world made them want to continue??? It's fascinating really. Other female skaters have gotten pregnant, but to hide a pregnancy, and still compete... so why didn't Delobel just withdraw because of her shoulder injury and pretend she wasn't pregnant? How did Tessa know that her pregnancy wouldn't show, that people at shows wouldn't notice how big was she was getting, why promote a book in those heavy sweaters... why not just tell the truth or just take the season off in relative obscurity (still pretty weird).<br /><br />By then they were already Olympic champions, they could have made it clear that private lives would remain private and they were staying in because of their work. Really not hard to accomplish at all. Navka's daughter wasn't paraded all over TV. And VM seem like really intelligent people otherwise, so I just don't. get. it.<br /><br />If the whole justification is that Moirville thinks fans are below dirt, then that's pretty funny, since they're twisting their lives in knots solely because of the fans now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-13140467547580814132013-09-05T05:08:49.892-07:002013-09-05T05:08:49.892-07:00Even the G&G fluff pieces were done with G&...Even the G&G fluff pieces were done with G&G's green light.<br /><br />The mistake is - oh it would piss me off so much if the focus was on the relationship and not the skating! The focus can be anywhere they put it, and the fluff doesn't have to zoom in on the platonic versus romantic. The fluff in the last Olympics didn't, did it? It was like every other glowy fluff piece on the other Olympic teams. <br /><br />A year or so ago one comment pointed out that even Shae Lynn Bourne and Viktor Kratz had to "deal" with romantic relationship questions even at an event like a National competition. No, they didn't. If they didn't want those questions they'd have been asked other stuff. <br /><br />Scott and Tessa have a choice now. They would have a choice if they hadn't shammed, or if they'd shammed with some basic decency. They are the ones that continually drag their relationship status into the conversation. Correction - they are the ones who continually drag their lies about what the fans think of their relationship status into the conversation. First of all, most fans for years and years not only believed they were just friends, but mocked people who thought otherwise - and very few dared say they thought otherwise. And there's now, when they know a lot of people believe the truth about them, and they continue to mock THOSE people as crazy #stopthemadness.<br /><br />This is all their choices. This isn't defense.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-32875619629008440202013-09-04T20:59:06.915-07:002013-09-04T20:59:06.915-07:00Lol. Looks like fan has created a facebook page f...Lol. Looks like fan has created a facebook page for Miss Hilborn:<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/model.cassandra.hilbornAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-54113014935838566162013-09-04T20:38:06.958-07:002013-09-04T20:38:06.958-07:00Anon 7:56 I think your reasoning could be logical ...Anon 7:56 I think your reasoning could be logical if Tessa and Scott didn't make a point of talking about their relationship that isn't a relationship. If they wanted the fluff pieces to be about their hard dedication and work then why allow so much press time to their non-relationship over and above the time dedicated to their skating? <br /><br />VM have never sounded nor acted like a skating team that wants the relationship question off the table and wants the focus on skating. I was hoping that would happen for this Olympic season but it's already been abundantly evident that they WANT the fans speculating about their sex lives and not so much the skating.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-8677031350657201442013-09-04T19:56:29.642-07:002013-09-04T19:56:29.642-07:00I am sorry if this has been talked about in the co...I am sorry if this has been talked about in the comments section in other posts...i scroll through them, but fail at reading every last word...SO - there's a quote from PJ on her twitter "@anxiousclown for the record - I don't pretend to be unaware- I ask skaters and respect their answer-am mostly interested in on ice...you?"<br /><br />she is saying right there in black and white that she knows the truth and when she asks them on camera about it she doesnt call them out because she "respects" their answer...more like respects their work, (mostly interested in on ice) i doubt she can respect a blatant and very public lie. <br /> <br />There is also the possibility that she respects the reason behind the public lies too...so that all gets wrapped up as "respect their answer"...PJ, Moirville and Virtue Inc #stopthemadness <br /><br />"For the record" ;) i believe this lie was instigated because they simply did not want their relationship to be a fluff piece instead of their hard work. look at ALOT of G&G's fluff pieces, it is basically ALL about their relationship and barely any bit of the hard dedication and work they did. <br />That would piss me off too, and i would make it my business to tell the next ice sweethearts so they could have that life experience without having to live it...learning from others honest mistakes is a virtue...and it wouldnt be that hard if my old coach was their coach and she (Marina) could easily have that moment arranged..or have just told them herself since she was right there and saw everything....WHO KNOWS - SPECULATIONS but honestly, there is some sense in the speculations...no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-74580043202883339602013-09-04T17:56:15.206-07:002013-09-04T17:56:15.206-07:00Well, I think there's more to it than how the ...Well, I think there's more to it than how the PUBLIC would respond. I think VM are considering much more than any fan fallout. <br /><br />Here's an example. At one point the blog pointed out that Debbi Wilkes was positioning herself center frame behind Scott and Tessa when they were interviewed by P.J. Kwong at HPC. There she was, turned 3/4ths our way, pretending to chat, several yards back, while the sightlines between her and VM's camera were completely cleared, despite VM being interviewed in what looked like a busy concourse. Debbi was the only one in the background getting face time. Also, Barb got her few seconds on camera as the interview began, then exited downstage facing the lens, and moments later Debbi entered.<br /><br />This is all fun to hoot and point fingers at when we look at it, but I don't think Debbi gives a damn what we think. The woman is like a tank, as close to embarrassment-proof as it gets. OTOH, I bet some people in Skate Canada, parents, skaters, media, etc. also knew exactly what she was up to when these screen caps were published, and that was embarrassing.<br /><br />I suspect that VM aren't really concerned with how the public per se would react to a reveal, but more about how admitting the truth at a time when they have no choice but to be in the public eye (they're eligible Olympians) might embarrass not just them, but those around them, and the ensuing commentary - even if the commentary is internal. It stands to reason that a lot of people in their environment that originally believed the sham was protecting the two earnest young lovebirds have recalibrated their point of view, and no point in validating that.<br /><br />Of course all of this could have been skirted if they hadn't decided to make a sloppy party out of denying their relationship, instead of leaving it to be managed by professionals. It's still a mystery what Moirville has gotten out of this - OR Skate Canada, other than picayune power tripping, discharging hostility a lot of people connected to this appear to harbor, and feeling in control and superior.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-954609649017741842013-09-04T13:30:54.186-07:002013-09-04T13:30:54.186-07:00I agree, I don't think the fans need to worry ...I agree, I don't think the fans need to worry about Tessa's legs for her, or anything really on the skating, conditioning and performance end. They don't need our advice/opinion, and surround themselves with the best.<br /><br />The SCORING is something I think fans can focus on, and its legitimacy, especially as we'll soon see DW's Olympic programs.oycanadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056686007756844095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-54999190491532190722013-09-04T12:58:43.691-07:002013-09-04T12:58:43.691-07:00I think it's a given that if VM think she need...I think it's a given that if VM think she needs to be brought in, she will be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2583966972735299482.post-81802037311600718362013-09-04T12:20:38.236-07:002013-09-04T12:20:38.236-07:00Since the ISU has now passed a 5 point deduction r...Since the ISU has now passed a 5 point deduction rule for stops in a program - I was wondering if you think that it may be wise for V/M to bring back Mary Brannagan, physiotherapist for this year. I am not suggesting that Tessa's CECS symptoms are back but considering the travel this year, the Finnstep SD and the fact that during the Olympic games V/M will most likely do the team event - I would be on-board with Mary Brannagan coming in at least for the GP final, Nationals and the Olympics..Not dissing Skate Canada's physical therapist - but when you've got a highly qualified physical therapist who already knows her patient...I would go with the winning formula.. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com